Time and the New Sun

The SF-Lovers list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 07 Oct 1992
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Dani Zweig07 Oct 1992, 03:08
It's harder than it seems at first glance to decide on the time scale of Gene Wolfe's "New Sun" books. Most of the changes that suggest millions of years - resource depletion, evolution of new species, even the extinguishing of Earth's fires, could have been achieved in far less time through technological intervention. Trying a simpler question, as a means of getting a handle on the harder one, how much time passed between Ymar's day and Severian's? The clues conflict. Ymar lived in the first days of the dying of the sun, in the last days of Earth's diastrophism, and in the last days of Earth's interstellar empire. (It may have even been in his day that the Autarchy lost most of Earth outside South America.) On the other hand, he lived in a world little different from Severian's, where even the small villages were the same. We also note that it was reasonable to expect a coin from Ymar's time to survive, badly corroded, in Severian's: there is reason to suspect that common words such as 'copper', 'stone', 'wood', often refer to far more durable materials than we associate with them. Dani Zweig
Matt Austern07 Oct 1992, 17:53

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dani at netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
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Trying a simpler question, as a means of getting a handle on the harder one, how much time passed between Ymar's day and Severian's? The clues conflict. Ymar lived in the first days of the dying of the sun, in the last days of Earth's diastrophism, and in the last days of Earth's interstellar empire. (It may have even been in his day that the Autarchy lost most of Earth outside South America.) On the other hand, he lived in a world little different from Severian's, where even the small villages were the same.
There's another clue worth paying attention to: the way that Ymar is remembered in Severian's day. Severian read one story about Ymar, and felt that he was reading about a person infinitely removed from the world he lived in, about whom it was possible to know almost nothing. The impression I got is that almost no records about Ymar, or writings of his, had survived, only a few fragments like the one Severian read. The way that Ymar was remembered seemed more similar to the way that we remember Alexander the Great than to the way that we remember Napolean. Matthew Austern (510) 644-2618 austern at lbl.bitnet

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