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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/sflovers/74",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 74,
    "subject": "Gene Wolfe, Severian, and Latro",
    "messages": 3,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "1988-11-25T01:54:41+00:00",
    "last": "1988-11-29T21:30:31+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<sflovers-v13-334-13@digest.sf-lovers>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Brian Hilchie",
        "address": "alzabo!brian at scs.carleton.ca"
      },
      "date": "1988-11-25T01:54:41+00:00",
      "subject": "Gene Wolfe, Severian, and Latro",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "I have just returned to the net after a lengthy absence so I apologize if\nthis has come up recently.\n\nHas there been in the last few months or will there be in the near future\nanything published by Gene Wolfe, particularly followups to _Soldier of the\nMist_ and _The Urth of the New Sun_?\n\nAlso, does anyone share my suspicion that Latro (from SofM) and Severian\n(_The Book of the New Sun_ and TUofNS) are the same person?  I don't have\nany hard evidence for this, but the ending of TUofNS leaves this\npossibility open, and I find the similarities and contrasts between the two\ncharacters very intriguing.  Any comments supporting or refuting this\ntheory are welcome.\n\nBrian Hilchie"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<sflovers-v13-337-10@digest.sf-lovers>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Chuq Von Rospach",
        "address": "chuq%plaid at sun.com"
      },
      "date": "1988-11-28T23:39:32+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: Gene Wolfe, Severian, and Latro",
      "in_reply_to": "<sflovers-v13-334-13@digest.sf-lovers>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "text": "Has there been in the last few months or will there be in the near future\nanything published by Gene Wolfe, particularly followups to _Soldier of\nthe Mist_ and _The Urth of the New Sun_?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "No. His latest is \"There are Doors\" (Tor hardcover), which is unrelated to\nanything else (except, from what I can tell having just started it, Free\nLive Free in spirit...). Based on what he told me a while back, his next\nbook will be the follow-up to Soldier of the Mist (title unfortunately\nforgotten....) probably about mid-year. There are going to be more\nfollowups of both series, but I don't know the details."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Also, does anyone share my suspicion that Latro (from SofM) and Severian\n(_The Book of the New Sun_ and TUofNS) are the same person?  I don't have\nany hard evidence for this, but the ending of TUofNS leaves this\npossibility open"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "While we didn't discuss this point directly, from my discussions with Wolfe\nI don't see this as being true. He views them as separate series, not\nAsimovesque independent series wedged together into an artificial\nsimilarity.\n\nChuq Von Rospach"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<sflovers-v13-337-11@digest.sf-lovers>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jim Gardner",
        "address": "jagardner at watmath.waterloo.edu"
      },
      "date": "1988-11-29T21:30:31+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: Gene Wolfe, Severian, and Latro",
      "in_reply_to": "<sflovers-v13-337-10@digest.sf-lovers>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "text": "brian at alzabo.UUCP (Brian Hilchie) writes:"
        },
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Does anyone share my suspicion that Latro (from SofM) and Severian (_The\nBook of the New Sun_ and TUofNS) are the same person?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "To me, it's pretty clear that Soldier of the Mist is a \"book-end\" to the\nBook of the New Sun.  In other words, Wolfe got SotM by reversing most of\nBotNS.  For example, Severian remembers everything while Latro remembers\nnothing. While everything in New Sun was strange and aged and decadent (to\na greater or lesser extent), everything in SotM is very simple and \"pure\":\nfor example, cities have names like \"Truth\".\n\nThere is a strong parallelism between Severian's companions and Latro's:\nthe young innocent woman; the old sorceror/sorceress who is not what (s)he\nseems; the giant; and so on.  I'm afraid it's been a long time since I read\nSotM, and it hasn't stuck in my memory as well as BotNS; but I remember\nsaying \"Aha!\" over and over again as familiar incidents from BotNS popped\nup in SotM, rearranged or reversed.\n\nJim Gardner\nUniversity of Waterloo"
        }
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