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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/sflovers/89",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 89,
    "subject": "Pandora/Gene Wolfe/Girl Who Owned a City",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1991-02-09T08:30:37+00:00",
    "last": "1991-02-09T08:30:37+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<sflovers-v16-50-7@digest.sf-lovers>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dick Smith",
        "address": "smith!dick at ast.dsd.northrop.com"
      },
      "date": "1991-02-09T08:30:37+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: Pandora/Gene Wolfe/Girl Who Owned a City",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Cynthia Teague wrote:\nI have just finished *Pandora by Holly Hollander* by Gene Wolfe.  This is\na mystery, not sf, ... ... ...\nWhat really threw me, though, is that the book is set in my home town.\nWolfe has taken the town, made some transparent and funny-sounding name\nchanges, and used it as is.  For example, Barrington becomes Barton,\nwhich is surrounded by Barton Hills (the rich part of town) and South\nBarton (still fairly rural); their counterparts surround Barrington."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Seth Alan Tisue responded:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I know Wolfe lives in the northwest suburbs of Chicago, probably in\nBarrington itself from what you say.  (Doesn't Frederik Pohl live around\nthere somewhere?)  I'm from around there myself so I'll be especially\ninterested in reading the book."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "That's correct; Gene Wolfe does live in Barrington.  Other Chicago area SF\nauthors include A.J.Budrys (notice Evanston mentions in _Michaelmas_),\nRoland Green, and Phyllis Eisenstein.  Fred Pohl moved here (Chicago\nNorthwest suburbs) a few years ago, and has used some Chicago area color in\nseveral of his recent stories.  Recently, Martha Soukup started selling,\nand moved away; I don't know if her Chicago area background will show in\nher future writing.\n\nYou might also notice Chicago color in Fred Saberhagen's vampire stories,\nbut I don't know if he has/had any connection with the city.\n\nI have a vague memory of some new-wave-ish writer who seemed to use Chicago\nas his prototype city; I had trouble suspending disbelief when he was\nwriting about the tides.  Can anyone remind me who this was.  I'm sure the\nstory collection is here someplace, but I cannot remember the author at\nall!  I think the paperback was yellow-green?\n\nMore accurate, if only a little less scientifictional, is Daniel\nPinkwater's Chicago references in the two Snarkout Boy's books.  Pinkwater\nfans who attend the upcoming WorldCon in Chicago may wish to seek out the\nNumber 22 bus, and see if it compares with the one which runs along Snark\nStreet; I assure you that Clark Street is nearly as strange.  And many\nPinkwater fans will realize that the WorldCon's hotel is located at one end\nof Lower North Aufzoo Street.\n\nDick Smith\nWheeling, Illinois"
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