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  "thread": {
    "id": 1005,
    "subject": "Sev's Dad; Aztecs in Space",
    "messages": 3,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "1998-07-17T21:14:18+00:00",
    "last": "1998-07-18T18:22:08+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0017-0033@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Robert Borski",
        "address": "rborski at coredcs.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-07-17T21:14:18+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Sev's Dad; Aztecs in Space",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "text": "Don't know if this has been brought up before, but if Owen/Ouen is\nconsidered to be the Welsh/Celtic equivalent of Eugene, doesn't that mean\nSev's father might also be called Gene?\n\n*******************************************************\n\nOne of the more puzzling names in THE FIFTH HEAD OF CERBERUS to be sourced\nis the Country of Friends. It's cited by the abos as the possible homeport\nof the star-faring Homo sapiens pangalacticus, who've traveled to Saint\nAnne in the distant past, and mentioned in the same breath as Atlantis and\nGondwanaland.\n\nI'm now speculating it relates to the Aztecs.\n\nThis is because Texas--where Gene Wolfe grew up--is derived from the Indian\nword \"texia,\" meaning \"friends.\" And since Texas was once part of Mexico,\nit's possible the Country of Friends generally refers to Aztecan\ncivilization.\n\nI like this notion because it plays off of several aspects. (1) It has the\nGW autobiographical element we see so often in FIFTH HEAD. (2) Many\npseudo-scientific theories would have us believe that [a] the Aztecs,\nToltecs, Incas et al. are all survivors of the Atlantean catastrophe, or\n[b] were contacted by, or are descendents, of prehistoric spacetravelers.\nAnd (3) many of the MesoAmerican Indian tribes were also cannibalistic, as\nare the Annese. \n\nWhether this is original with Wolfe, or if Country of Friends is someone\nelse's coinage, remains to be determined.\n\nRobert Borski"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0017-0034@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "William H. Ansley",
        "address": "wansley at warwick.net"
      },
      "date": "1998-07-17T23:50:38+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Sev's Dad; Aztecs in Space",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0017-0033@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "One of the more puzzling names in THE FIFTH HEAD OF CERBERUS to be sourced\nis the Country of Friends. It's cited by the abos as the possible homeport\nof the star-faring Homo sapiens pangalacticus, who've traveled to Saint\nAnne in the distant past, and mentioned in the same breath as Atlantis and\nGondwanaland.\n\nI'm now speculating it relates to the Aztecs.\n\nThis is because Texas--where Gene Wolfe grew up--is derived from the Indian\nword \"texia,\" meaning \"friends.\" And since Texas was once part of Mexico,\nit's possible the Country of Friends generally refers to Aztecan\ncivilization."
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          "text": "I like this too.\n\nI have a nagging idea that the phrase \"the Country of Friends\" occurs\nelsewhere in Wolfe and I have seen it recently in my rereading. If I find\nthe reference, I will certainly post.\n\nWilliam Ansley"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0017-0037@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Derek Bell",
        "address": "dbell at maths.tcd.ie"
      },
      "date": "1998-07-18T18:22:08+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Sev's Dad; Aztecs in Space",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0017-0034@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "In message <199807180352.UAA19972 at lists1.best.com>, \"William H. Ansley\" writes:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I have a nagging idea that the phrase \"the Country of Friends\" occurs\nelsewhere in Wolfe and I have seen it recently in my rereading. If I find\nthe reference, I will certainly post."
        },
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          "text": "\tI think it's in the short story _Feather Tigers_, IIRC. It\noccurs in the dialog between the main protagonist and the sky(space?)\nyacht.\n\n\tDerek"
        }
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