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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 1056, "subject": "Weer's Death in Peace", "messages": 2, "voices": 2, "first": "1998-08-24T05:36:20+00:00", "last": "1998-08-24T23:45:20+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "CRCulver", "address": "crculver at aol.com" }, "date": "1998-08-24T05:36:20+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Weer's Death in Peace", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "William Ansley said:\n\n\nI don't think so...\n\n\nAnd continued:\n<...and because Wolfe has said so.>\n\n...but it looks like I'm wrong \n\n\nAnd said:\n\n\nI assume _Peace_ is like all Wolfe novels in that whole new shades of meaning\nblossom with each rereading. I hope to learn more the second time around than\nI did the first. I guess I'll start on it again after I finish Dan Simmons'\nHyperion quartet which, incidentally, contains several influences from Wolfe,\nIMHO.\n\n\nI've found, on the Compuserve Wolfe interview, what I was looking for, in that\na fan asks if Weer killed Lois:\n\n\"davelant: Mr. Wolfe, did Alden Dennis Weer kill the librarian, and bury her\nin the dry creek bed?\"\n\nAnd Wolfe unfortunately responded:\n\n\"GeneWolfe: Weer: You are going to have to figure that one out for yourself.\nI don't tell that kind of stuff.\"\n\nJust my luck...\n\nChristopher R. Culver \nhttp://members.aol.com/crculver/index.html\n------------------------------------------------\n\"The darkest dreams are the ones that come true.\"\n-Warren Defever" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "William H. Ansley", "address": "wansley at warwick.net" }, "date": "1998-08-24T23:45:20+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Weer's Death in Peace", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Christopher R. Culver said:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "William Ansley said:\n\n\nI don't think so..." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "You certainly can think whatever you want, but please note that I said\n\"certain as anything can be in a Wolfe book\" which isn't very certain at\nall. However I think the evidence that Weer is dead is strong. One reason I\nthink that the evidence is strong is that it is also very indirect and you\nhave to pay close attention to figure it out. I read the book three times\nbefore I realized that Weer was dead. If Wolfe makes it easy to think\nsomething is true, it may well be false. If Wolfe makes it hard to discern\nsomething, it is more likely to be true." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "And continued:\n<...and because Wolfe has said so.>\n\n...but it looks like I'm wrong " }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Don't give up the ship! Why believe what Wolfe says \"in person\" if you\ndon't believe what he says in his books? " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "And said:\n\n\nI assume _Peace_ is like all Wolfe novels in that whole new shades of meaning\nblossom with each rereading. I hope to learn more the second time around than\nI did the first. I guess I'll start on it again after I finish Dan Simmons'\nHyperion quartet which, incidentally, contains several influences from Wolfe,\nIMHO." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Exactly! Even though _Peace_ seems to be a story told by a fairly\nunremarkable man in a fairly unremarkable setting, I keep finding new,\nremarkable things in it every time I reread it. (I have lost count of how\nmany times that is.) Perhaps that is the reason it fascinates me so.\nAnother thing that adds to my interest in _Peace_, after reading much of\nWolfe's other work, is how many germs of ideas that appear in many of his\nnovels and short stories can be found in _Peace_ (or so it seems to me)." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I've found, on the Compuserve Wolfe interview, what I was looking for, in that\na fan asks if Weer killed Lois:\n\n\"davelant: Mr. Wolfe, did Alden Dennis Weer kill the librarian, and bury her\nin the dry creek bed?\"\n\nAnd Wolfe unfortunately responded:\n\n\"GeneWolfe: Weer: You are going to have to figure that one out for yourself.\nI don't tell that kind of stuff.\"\n\nJust my luck..." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "A while ago we had an entertaining discussion about casting a movie version\nof TBotNS. Here is another movie idea: a Wolfe version of Stephen King's\n_Misery_. In this version the author is tortured by his crazed fan until he\ntells him/her what he *really* meant about everything in every book/story.\nThe torture would be a little more appropriate in this version, since\nreading Wolfe's fiction is what drove the fan crazy in the first place.\n\n\nWilliam Ansley" } ] } ] }