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  "thread": {
    "id": 1064,
    "subject": "Weer's House",
    "messages": 3,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "1998-08-28T04:57:02+00:00",
    "last": "1998-08-28T23:42:19+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0018-0051@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "CRCulver",
        "address": "crculver at aol.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-08-28T04:57:02+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Weer's House",
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          "text": "Wolfe said in the interview with James B. Jordan:\n\n\"I wanted to do the rooms that were recreations and \nrooms that [Weer] had known as a very young man and I didn't think that\nanybody would actually do that. That it had to be a supernatural stick or a\nmental quirk or something of that sort.\"\n\nI think this means the house didn't exist...just my opinion. Perhaps the other\nlistees can get more out of it.\n\nChristopher R. Culver <crculver at aol.com>\nhttp://members.aol.com/crculver/index.html"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0018-0056@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alex David Groce",
        "address": "adgroce at eos.ncsu.edu"
      },
      "date": "1998-08-28T14:02:05+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Weer's House",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0018-0051@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "Hmmm...  I don't have it with me (I always end up answering these on campus\nwhere my little Wolfe library isn't handy) but isn't there an essay in CASTLE\nOF DAYS, titled \"Peace of My Mind\" or such, where Wolfe complains about people\nthinking of the museum house as an eldritch Poe-like (not that I'd imagine\nWolfe thinks Poe-like is much of an insult) device.  He says that it's much\nmore normal than some tend to think, then talks about an old knife of his that\nis a kind of \"memory house\" all in itself?\n\tAlthough, now that I think about it, I'm not sure if the essay was\nimplying Weer really built such a house or not.  I'll have to re-read it."
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          "text": "On Aug 28, 12:57am, CRCulver at aol.com wrote:\nSubject: (urth) Weer's House\nWolfe said in the interview with James B. Jordan:\n\n\"I wanted to do the rooms that were recreations and\nrooms that [Weer] had known as a very young man and I didn't think that\nanybody would actually do that. That it had to be a supernatural stick or a\nmental quirk or something of that sort.\"\n\nI think this means the house didn't exist...just my opinion. Perhaps the\nother\nlistees can get more out of it."
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          "text": "\"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.\" - John 8:32\n--\nAlex David Groce (adgroce at eos.ncsu.edu)\nSenior (Computer Science/Multidisciplinary Studies in Technology & Fiction)\n'98-99 NCSU AITP Student Chapter President\n608 Charleston Road, Apt. 1E (919)-233-7366\nhttp://www4.ncsu.edu/~adgroce"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0018-0058@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "William H. Ansley",
        "address": "wansley at warwick.net"
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      "date": "1998-08-28T23:42:19+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Weer's House",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0018-0056@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "Alex David Groce (adgroce at eos.ncsu.edu) wrote:\nHmmm...  I don't have it with me (I always end up answering these on campus\nwhere my little Wolfe library isn't handy) but isn't there an essay in CASTLE\nOF DAYS, titled \"Peace of My Mind\" or such, where Wolfe complains about people\nthinking of the museum house as an eldritch Poe-like (not that I'd imagine\nWolfe thinks Poe-like is much of an insult) device.  He says that it's much\nmore normal than some tend to think, then talks about an old knife of his that\nis a kind of \"memory house\" all in itself?\nAlthough, now that I think about it, I'm not sure if the essay was\nimplying Weer really built such a house or not.  I'll have to re-read it.\n\nOn Aug 28, 12:57am, CRCulver at aol.com wrote:"
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          "text": "Subject: (urth) Weer's House\nWolfe said in the interview with James B. Jordan:\n\n\"I wanted to do the rooms that were recreations and\nrooms that [Weer] had known as a very young man and I didn't think that\nanybody would actually do that. That it had to be a supernatural stick or a\nmental quirk or something of that sort.\"\n\nI think this means the house didn't exist...just my opinion. Perhaps the\nother\nlistees can get more out of it."
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          "text": "-----------------\nMy novel _Peace_ has just been published in Britain.... Colin Greenland has\nreviewed it kindly in the London _Times Literary Supplement_, but what we\nare doing here at Aussiecon Two strikes me as proving that I am right and\nhe is wrong. Let me quote a bit of his review: \"Drawing on the energies of\nthe past, he wanders through the house, whose rooms seem to change about\nhim. Weer remembers designing it and 'interspersing among the functional\nrooms of my home certan \"museum rooms\" ', 'duplicating or nearly\nduplicating certain well-remembered rooms whose furnishings had fallen to\nme by inheritance'. The sheer Poe-like oddness of this contrivance is the\nmetafictional trick.\"\n\nMr. Greenland supposes--in his review, at least--that to come accross odd\ncorners of one's past in odd corners of one's house (which is what Alden\nDennis Weer does in _Peace_) is, as H. P. Lovecraft might have said,\neldritch.\n\n-from \"_Peace_ of My Mind\" in _Castle of Days_\n-----------------\n\nI don't think Wolfe is being fair to Mr. Greenland here. Obviously, if all\nWolfe had done was have ADW find items that brought back memories in \"odd\ncorners\" of a conventional, stable house then Mr. Greenland wouldn't have\nwritten what he did. However, I don't think I understand or think I don't\nagree what Mr. Greenland is saying about metafiction. But, since the quote\nis out of context, I guess I am not being fair, either!\n\nWolfe says he didn't think anyone would actually build a house such as Weer\ndescribes designing in _Peace_. After reading _Peace_, *I* believe that\nWeer would have built such a house. Wolfe is just that good!\n\nI think the anti-house camp has expended some convincing ammunition, but\nyou need not waste any more on me. I prefer to stay here in my bunker and\npreserve my illusions.\n\nWilliam Ansley"
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