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  "thread": {
    "id": 1099,
    "subject": "(no subject)",
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    "first": "1998-09-08T10:25:11+00:00",
    "last": "1998-09-08T10:25:11+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0018-0122@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David Wells",
        "address": "adw at ovum.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-09-08T10:25:11+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth)",
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          "text": "From:\tJim Jordan <jbjordan at gnt.net <mailto:jbjordan at gnt.net> >"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Subject:\tRe: (urth) Eco's tic\nEco's point in *Name* is that the world CAN be understood, something\nBaskerville's\ndisciple fails to learn, "
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          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "[even more off topic, but briefly] I sometimes think that Michael\nMoorcock's \"The War Hound and The World's Pain\" is a kind of\n\"anti-Name-of-the-Rose\". There are (to my perhaps peculiar way of\nthinking) plot similarities in that both describe the\nnot-completely-witting attempts of \"philosopher\" protagonists to end the\nAge of Unreason (a topic much more explicit in Moorcock's book).\nAs a result, at the end of both books the world has \"changed\" in a\nsubtle(ish) way. But, in keeping with Moorcock's status as the\n\"anti-Wolfe\"(*), von Bek is a semi-sociopathic atheist warrior who falls\nin with angels and demons, whereas Baskerville is a monk who falls in\nwith matters of the material world. (Hmmm... I'm almost beginning to\nconvince myself here).\nAnyway, I would recommend \"Warhound\" as a light contrast to Wolfe (with\nthe caveat that Moorcock writes it with such lucidity that some of my\nfriends have dismissed it as a \"juvenile\"), and the sequel \"The City and\nthe Autumn Stars\", which is much more intricate and baroque. Both were\nrecently (ish: 1995/7) republished in the UK in collected form as \"Von\nBek\".\nnewt\n(*) Moorcock is erudite, heavily-influenced, and writes often\nelliptical/baffling books about philosophical/theological topics. But...\nhe's a proselytising atheist who writes in a lucid way about complex\ntopics - the Anti-Wolfe!"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Nutria (James B. Jordan)"
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