# healers and torturers

*The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 07 Oct 1998*

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### Dan Parmenter
*07 Oct 1998, 08:40*

> From: Jon Camfield <GriffJon at Mail.UTexas.edu>
> Two things-- Magic in Urth is very very limited, and for all intents and
> purposes does not exist (according to Wolfe) the Declan duel Wolfe
> describes as more psionic and hypnoyic than anything else.  

I believe it was Decuman that engaged in the "duel of magic".  Declan
was one of the people healed by Sev in URTH, I think.

> In somewhat of a ironic idea (Wolfe employ irony? never!) Sev's sister
> could be an unmentioned person in the Healer's Tower.  Master Gurloes
> mentions this tower in one of his rambling lectures to Sev (in which he
> tends to drop hints he probably shouldn't), but it is never made issue
> again.  The sister would be a 'light' sister to contrast with Sev's 'dark'
> upbringing, and would be a healer, in line with the Pelerine thread, and
> would still be within the complex of the Citadel.

Yes, and we are told that torturers never go there.

Of course Severian is a healer too.  He is praised as a "leech", and
patches up Triskele (after first raising him from the dead :-)

By Gurloes "dropping hints", do you mean hints about Severian's true
nature?  Or hints about his own ghastly life?  I'm thinking of the
"metal phallus" scene here.

D

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### Mark Millman
*09 Oct 1998, 08:59 · follows Dan Parmenter*

>  On 7 October at 8:41, Dan Parmenter wrote:
> I believe it was Decuman that engaged in the
> "duel of magic".  Declan was one of the people
> healed by Sev in URTH, I think.

 You're right, of course; it is Decuman.

 So much for my memory.

 Mark Millman

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