# Pandora / Catcher in the Rye [Digest urth.v002.n020] *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 23 Jul 1997* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### John Bishop *23 Jul 1997, 16:24* mantis-- Well, when I started to read _Pandora_by_Holly_Hollander_ and found myself reading a monologue by an observant but a bit alienated teenager, _Catcher_ instantly sprang to mind. Gene Wolfe puts really obscure references in his works (e.g. the torture machine in _Shadow_ which writes on the clients' bodies is from Kafka's _The_Penal_Colony_). I can't believe he wouldn't make the _Catcher_ connection. Other than that, I don't believe there are that many parallels; Holden Caulfield doesn't solve a murder, and Holly doesn't go to NYC. But that wonderful voice of innocence which thinks it's cynical--that was the same. Maybe I need to re-read _Catcher_; but I remember not liking it, and I've other things to read. -John ---