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  "thread": {
    "id": 1173,
    "subject": "Borskisms",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1998-10-14T20:52:35+00:00",
    "last": "1998-10-14T20:52:35+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0020-0001@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Charles Dye",
        "address": "raster at highfiber.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-10-14T20:52:35+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Borskisms",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "\"Robert Borski\" <rborski at coredcs.com> writes:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "\"His empire did fail him, as it had to...But he did not retire as he had\nplanned into that vault and the curtain wall he had caused to be built\naround it, for when once the wild things have been put behind a man for\ngood and all, they are trap-wise and cannot be recaptured.\n\n\"Nevertheless, it is said that before all he gathered was sealed away, he\nset a guardian over it. And when that guardian's time on Urth was done, he\nfound another, and he another, so that they continue ever faithful to the\ndemands of that autarch...\"\n\nCyriaca, earlier, has called this vault \"the lost archives\" and when she\nfinishes her tale, Sev says, \"It is a wonderful story. I think that perhaps\n*I know more of it than you, but I have never heard* it before.\"\n\nThis is because he's just realized the Claw has reawakened the guardian of\nthe lost archives."
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          "text": "Sigh.  Once again, I have a much duller interpretation.  Call me a bore-\nschismatic.  Cyriaca gives the location of the lost archives.  They are\n\"in Nessus, a long way south of the city most people visit, so far down\nthe great river... there stands an ancient fortress....  It stands upon a\nhill overlooking Gyoll... staring out over a field of ruined sepulchers,\nguarding nothing.\"  Severian knows more of the story because he's visited\nthe vault.  He himself carries one of the lost volumes beyond the curtain\nwall.\n\nNaturally, I agree with your nominee for the \"autarch.\"\n\n\nm.driussi at genie.com writes:"
        },
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Am I wrong?  Did all that intellectual labor go out with the\nalchemists?  Has Science become some sort of orthodoxy of divine\ntransmission?  Have scientists become a species of cargo cult,\nwaiting for the next Truth to come tumbling out the cornucopia of the\nvast complex?"
        },
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          "text": "For what it's worth, I enjoy Mr. Borski's speculations, though I don't\nagree with most of them.  Great fun!  But theorizing is only part of\nscience, of course.  The dull part is gathering evidence to support\nor refute a theory.\n\nOne I'd like to see developed far better is the two-names-per-Hierodule\ntheory.  There's an obvious link with one of Winge's most famous short\nstories, of course; I suspect the titles of some of Mr. Borski's posts\nare intended to hint at it.  But I'd like a lot more detail.  Why, for\nexample, tie \"Abraxas\" in particular to \"Father Inire\"?  Was \"Abraxas\"\njust a loose name, or does it have some meaning that connects it to\nInire?\n\nraster at highfiber.com"
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