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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/1180",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 1180,
    "subject": "EFF, last call",
    "messages": 3,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "1998-10-15T15:35:13+00:00",
    "last": "1998-10-15T16:32:00+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0020-0014@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "m.driussi",
        "address": "m.driussi at genie.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-10-15T16:32:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) EFF, last call",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "text": "Attention!  Attention!\n\nJeremy Crampton informs me that the Urth novella EMPIRES OF FOLIAGE\nAND FLOWER is available now in the book THE BEST OF CRANK!\n\nPublishing history:\n\nFirst published by Cheap Street--you can't afford this one.\nFirst magazine appearance in \"CRANK!\" no. 2 (Winter 1993)--might be\nhard to find now.\n\nStory history:\n\nThis is the story that the Cumaean and Severian talk about in the\nStone Town.\n\nThat is all.\n\n=mantis="
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0020-0021@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Mark Millman",
        "address": "mark_millman at hmco.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-10-15T15:35:13+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) EFF, last call",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0020-0014@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "On 15 October 1998 at 4:32 PM GMT, mantis wrote:\nAttention!  Attention!\n\nJeremy Crampton informs me that\nthe Urth novella EMPIRES OF\nFOLIAGE AND FLOWER is available\nnow in the book THE BEST OF CRANK!\n\nPublishing history:\n\nFirst published by Cheap Street--you\n   can't afford this one.\nFirst magazine appearance in \"CRANK!\"\n   no. 2 (Winter 1993)--might be hard\n   to find now.\n\nStory history:\n\nThis is the story that the Cumaean and\nSeverian talk about in the Stone Town.\n\nThat is all.\n\n=mantis="
        },
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          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "You may not be able to afford the Cheap Street\n_Empires of Foliage and Flower_, but if you can,\nor if you know someone who's got it, do by all\nmeans track it down.  It is, to quote Ultan, \"a re-\nmarkably lovely book.\"  There are two editions,\nwhat Cheap Street calls their Collector's Edition\nand their Publisher's Edition.  Both are entirely\nhand-made (well, I don't know that the paper is\nhand-made) and printed on a hand-cranked\nletter-press.  Cheap Street's prices are high,\nbut you may be able to find it for less; since it's\nin admittedly slight demand, book dealers don't\ntend to charge cover price.  Even L.W. Currey,\nwho tends to be expensive, sells the Publisher's\nEdition at less than list.  I recommend looking for\nthe book on Advanced Book Exchange\n(http://www.abebooks.com/), Bibliofind\n(http://www.bibliofind.com/), or Interloc\n(http://www.interloc.com/).  From what I've seen,\nthe Collector's Edition tends to sell close to its\noriginal cost of $200, while the Publisher's can\ngo for from anwhere between its original cost of\n$600 down to about half that (though this will, of\ncourse, be subject to availability, etc.).\n\nAs a matter of fact, everything I've seen from\nCheap Street is really nice.  They are also, as\nyou'll recall, the original publishers of _Biblio-\nmen_ (later republished in a considerably less\nexpensive edition by Edgewood Press, which\nis run by Bryan Cholfin, the same fellow who\npublishes _CRANK!_--I think he now edits a\nmajor publisher's sf line in New York), and of\na bunch of Wolfe chapbooks, including the\nBotNS titles \"The Boy Who Hooked the Sun\"\nand \"The Old Woman Whose Rolling Pin Is the\nSun\", and the non-BotNS titles \"At the Point of\nCapricorn\", \"Slow Children at Play\", and, I think,\na couple of others.\n\nMark Millman"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0020-0023@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Kevin J. Maroney",
        "address": "kmaroney at crossover.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-10-15T16:11:36+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) EFF, last call",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0020-0021@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "At 03:35 PM 10/15/98 -0400, you wrote:\nYou may not be able to afford the Cheap Street\n_Empires of Foliage and Flower_, but if you can,\nor if you know someone who's got it, do by all\nmeans track it down.  It is, to quote Ultan, \"a re-\nmarkably lovely book.\""
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Actually, I thought it was overrated as a book-object, but I've always felt\nthat about Cheap Street. Perhaps it just shows that I'm not enough of a\nbibliophile to pick up on the things which are so lovely about it."
        },
        {
          "kind": "sig",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "   Kevin Maroney | Crossover Technologies \n   kmaroney at crossover.com | (212) 777-1190"
        }
      ]
    }
  ]
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