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  "thread": {
    "id": 1192,
    "subject": "Mani and Thor",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1998-10-15T23:22:03+00:00",
    "last": "1998-10-16T12:48:56+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0020-0033@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Peter T. Cash",
        "address": "ptcash at ibm.net"
      },
      "date": "1998-10-15T23:22:03+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Mani and Thor",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "alga said:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "But yes, with reservations about Erebus, Abaia & co., who are echoing the\nmore dualist parts of Revelation.  I said that Dr. Talos's play is\nManichaean. Which it certainly is--the gothic tradition to which\nBaldanders,\nTalos and all horror novelists belong is necessarily dualistic."
        },
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          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "\"Privatio boni\" won't do for Gothic novels? _Necessarily_ dualistic?\nUmm...well you are a micro-organism of definite opinions, so I'll just\ngently suggest that I'm not convinced.\n\nWhen you say that the play is \"Manichaean\", I take it that you mean it\nimplies a dualistic cosmology or theology. I suppose that it does; but then\nit implies lots of things. Indeed, the play struck me as a somewhat tacky,\nimprovised kitchen-sink composite of just about every apocalyptic-second\ncreation myth that I'd ever heard. (I'm surprised the Aesir don't put in an\nappearance.) I suppose this is in keeping with a play-within-a-novel that is\na \"grand sword 'n sorcery revision of the New Testament\". I really like that\nassessment, by the way.\n\nSgt. Rock"
        }
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0020-0040@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alex David Groce",
        "address": "adgroce at eos.ncsu.edu"
      },
      "date": "1998-10-16T12:48:56+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Mani and Thor",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0020-0033@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "Necessarily seems a bit much to me, as well.  Maybe necessarily somewhat\nsuggestive of dualism...  Come to think of it, Lovecraft isn't\ndualistic--there's only a dark side..."
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "On Oct 15, 11:22pm, Peter T. Cash wrote:\nSubject: (urth) Mani and Thor\nalga said:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "But yes, with reservations about Erebus, Abaia & co., who are echoing the\nmore dualist parts of Revelation.  I said that Dr. Talos's play is\nManichaean. Which it certainly is--the gothic tradition to which\nBaldanders,\nTalos and all horror novelists belong is necessarily dualistic."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "\"Privatio boni\" won't do for Gothic novels? _Necessarily_ dualistic?\nUmm...well you are a micro-organism of definite opinions, so I'll just\ngently suggest that I'm not convinced.\n\nWhen you say that the play is \"Manichaean\", I take it that you mean it\nimplies a dualistic cosmology or theology. I suppose that it does; but then\nit implies lots of things. Indeed, the play struck me as a somewhat tacky,\nimprovised kitchen-sink composite of just about every apocalyptic-second\ncreation myth that I'd ever heard. (I'm surprised the Aesir don't put in an\nappearance.) I suppose this is in keeping with a play-within-a-novel that is\na \"grand sword 'n sorcery revision of the New Testament\". I really like that\nassessment, by the way.\n\nSgt. Rock"
        }
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