Mani and Thor
The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 15 Oct 1998
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Peter T. Cash — 15 Oct 1998, 23:22

alga said:

> But yes, with reservations about Erebus, Abaia & co., who are echoing the
> more dualist parts of Revelation.  I said that Dr. Talos's play is
> Manichaean. Which it certainly is--the gothic tradition to which
> Baldanders,
> Talos and all horror novelists belong is necessarily dualistic.

"Privatio boni" won't do for Gothic novels? _Necessarily_ dualistic?
Umm...well you are a micro-organism of definite opinions, so I'll just
gently suggest that I'm not convinced.

When you say that the play is "Manichaean", I take it that you mean it
implies a dualistic cosmology or theology. I suppose that it does; but then
it implies lots of things. Indeed, the play struck me as a somewhat tacky,
improvised kitchen-sink composite of just about every apocalyptic-second
creation myth that I'd ever heard. (I'm surprised the Aesir don't put in an
appearance.) I suppose this is in keeping with a play-within-a-novel that is
a "grand sword 'n sorcery revision of the New Testament". I really like that
assessment, by the way.

Sgt. Rock

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Alex David Groce — 16 Oct 1998, 12:48
  follows, by subject match Peter T. Cash

Necessarily seems a bit much to me, as well.  Maybe necessarily somewhat
suggestive of dualism...  Come to think of it, Lovecraft isn't
dualistic--there's only a dark side...

> On Oct 15, 11:22pm, Peter T. Cash wrote:
> Subject: (urth) Mani and Thor
> alga said:

> > But yes, with reservations about Erebus, Abaia & co., who are echoing the
> > more dualist parts of Revelation.  I said that Dr. Talos's play is
> > Manichaean. Which it certainly is--the gothic tradition to which
> > Baldanders,
> > Talos and all horror novelists belong is necessarily dualistic.

> "Privatio boni" won't do for Gothic novels? _Necessarily_ dualistic?
> Umm...well you are a micro-organism of definite opinions, so I'll just
> gently suggest that I'm not convinced.
> 
> When you say that the play is "Manichaean", I take it that you mean it
> implies a dualistic cosmology or theology. I suppose that it does; but then
> it implies lots of things. Indeed, the play struck me as a somewhat tacky,
> improvised kitchen-sink composite of just about every apocalyptic-second
> creation myth that I'd ever heard. (I'm surprised the Aesir don't put in an
> appearance.) I suppose this is in keeping with a play-within-a-novel that is
> a "grand sword 'n sorcery revision of the New Testament". I really like that
> assessment, by the way.
> 
> Sgt. Rock

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