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  "thread": {
    "id": 1212,
    "subject": "Fechin's cohort",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1998-10-19T17:57:00+00:00",
    "last": "1998-10-19T17:57:00+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0020-0069@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "m.driussi",
        "address": "m.driussi at genie.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-10-19T17:57:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Fechin's cohort",
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          "text": "Robert Borski,\n\nRight, it is young (twenty-something) journeyman Severian who dubs\nthe Old Man in the hut as contemporary to Rudesind.\n\nAnd Rudesind talks of when he was a boy seventy years ago, making him\nwhat, seventy-five or so.\n\nSo if Fechin was a Mozart of the canvas, he could have been a famous\nteenager painting a five-year-old Rudesind (or Fechin at twenty and\nRudesind at ten), and seventy years later they would be considered\nmembers of the same cohort.\n\nRe: the Old Man as Casdoe's father or father-in-law.  I don't think\nit is you who screwed up, I think the text is very ambiguous on this\nrelatively simple identity.  Yes, Severian seems to think that Old\nMan is Casdoe's father--first when Old Man says, \"Becan, come over\nhere!\" in ch. 15, and later at the top of ch. 17.  But the way that\nCasdoe talks of her mother in Thrax makes it seem like the Old Man is\nBecan's father (Why would the one nearly infirm parent be so far away\nfrom the spouse and the comforts of civilization in Thrax?  And if\nOld Man were her dad, she might mention something to that effect\nwhile asking if Severian had seen her mother, Herais (\"Hera is . . .\nwhat?\" <g>), something like, \"Poopsie and I miss her something\nawful!\" or \"I fancy she is painting the old town red now that the\ndivorce has come through\" or \"Pa would of been back there afore now\nifen the road had not been awashed out three years agone\" or who\nknows what.\n\nAs usual, we can believe Severian, or we can doubt Severian.  And in\nthis odd little case, if we doubt him we wonder, \"Why does he want\nOld Man to be her father?  Is he avoiding falling into thinking Old\nMan as his own father, since he has taken Becan's place at the table,\nand later as father to little Severian?\"\n\nOld Man is talking about Fechin, with all that emphasis on how the\nsun was brighter that day, and how Fechin went to do the nasty with\nthat beautiful girl, then Fechin drew Old Man on one side of the page\nand beautiful girl on the other . . . and suddenly Agia (he-llo,\npretty lady!) comes down the stairs.  Spooky.  Severian even =says=\nthat her face might be a Fechin creation in wax which then melts in\nthe fire of her rage.\n\nRudesind (widower) looking for a Fechin portrait of his younger face\n(Narcissis); Old Boatman (widower) looking in a mirror-like lake for\nthe face of his young wife (Orpheus) . . .\n\nAnd Rudesind says that Inire told him to tell Severian about his\nchildhood . . . about Fechin.  Pretty important guy, that Fechin, for\nwhatever reason a person's application requires!\n\n=mantis="
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