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  "thread": {
    "id": 1293,
    "subject": "URTH: It ain't finished....",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1998-12-03T11:15:46+00:00",
    "last": "1998-12-03T11:15:46+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0022-0016@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Kevin J. Maroney",
        "address": "kmaroney at crossover.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-12-03T11:15:46+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) URTH: It ain't finished....",
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "At 10:56 AM 12/3/98 -0500, Rostrum wrote:\nRather argue that since the English \"It is\nfinished\" can mean \"It is over,\" \"It is the end,\" and \"It is completed,\"\n\"It is finished\" is both a possible translation for \"Terminus Est\" and the\ncommon English translation of Christ's last words.  "
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          "text": "Actually, my point was quite different from that. I have the feeling that,\nin Latin, \"Terminus\" does *not* have the connotation of \"finished\" any more\nthan does the English phrase which is its best translation, \"dividing\nline\". However, my Latin is certainly not strong enough to bolster this\nargument, whereas I suspect Wolfe's is pretty strong. \n\nPart of my position in this discussion is informed by a note I once read\nabout the opening sentence of Kafka's _The Trial_. One common English\ntranslation of this sentence is: \"Someone must have traduced Joseph K., for\nwithout having done anything wrong he was arrested one fine morning.\" The\nnote pointed out that some English-speaking critics had made much of the\nconnotative meanings of the word \"arrested\", including \"being stopped\"--the\ncourse of Joseph K's life is \"arrested\" at the same time he is. But, the\nnote continued, the German word used in the sentence simply *does not* have\nthat connotation; it simply means \"taken into police custody\". \n\nSimilarly, while I think that translating \"Terminus Est\" as \"It is\nfinished\" is a very clever observation which does actually fit the book\nwell, I fear that it might not be a valid translation, and thus is an\noverinterpretation. \n\nNow, if anyone can tell me that it *is* a fair translation, I will withdraw\nall my hesitation and embrace the observation as well-founded and\ncompletely clever.\n\nWombat, a.k.a. Kevin Maroney kmaroney at crossover.com\nKitchen Staff Supervisor, New York Review of Science Fiction\nhttp://ebbs.english.vt.edu/olp/nyrsf/nyrsf.html"
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