Sex, Lies, and no Videotape The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 17 Dec 1998 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/1308 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== David_Lebling — 17 Dec 1998, 16:04 > From: m.driussi at genie.com > One of Greg Feeley's list of "Severian's lies" is in chapter four, > when Valeria mentions the Tower of Torment "where all who enter die > in agony." > Quote Severian: "I told her that, at least, was a fable." > Then again, Feeley was flexible enough to note that the lie was based > on the technicallity that the torturers themselves entered (and > exited) on a daily basis without dying in agony. FWIW! I haven't seen Feeley's list, so I'm making my own mistakes here; however, I agree with him. In further exculpation, it is stated elsewhere that every now and then (but not often) someone is released from the Tower, so Sev gets a pass there, too. Admittedly, this is sort of a (*cough*) clintonian evasion ("It depends on what you mean by 'all.'") > Re: lessons learned in Thecla's cell. Well, as you say, there is no > guarantee that Canog's BOTNS had a nifty timeline in it--plus, while > Severian is said to be an excellent student, it is plain that the > subject of his study in Thecla's cell was, er, more carnal than > spiritual. He wasn't paying attention to =that= when he had =this=. > And yet, perhaps it crept in anyway, just not at the conscious level. Hmm. Sev remembers various stories from the brown book, but not _TBotNS_? I guess that confirms that the version he was reading wasn't the same as the one we read! -- Dave Lebling (aka vizcacha) (david_lebling at avid.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------