# C. Sappan *The Urth list — 3 messages, 2 voices, 16 Mar 1999* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Roy C. Lackey *16 Mar 1999, 20:32* Apparently the Jungle Garden is not meant to represent either S. America or Africa. One solid clue given is the name of the fallen tree Sev sees when the door of the Jungle Garden first swings open, near the end of chapter XIX. The sign on it reads: _Caesalpinia sappan_. The OED, under 'sapan', states that it is indigenous to tropical Asia and the Indian Archipelago. The roots of Caesalpinia Sappan, also called "yellow wood", are used to make yellow dye. Sev describes the hut as: "A house set on stilts of yellow wood. It's thatched with palm fronds.", near the end of chapter XX. Roy --- ### m.driussi *17 Mar 1999, 04:31 · follows Roy C. Lackey* Roy, Huh. I thought "C. Sappan" aka brazilwood aka "bresel wood" (when it was first imported to medieval Europe) is aka "the East Indian redwood" because its wood is a bright red in color and yields a red dye. (Yes, yes--the South American country was named after the Asian wood, not the other way around.) FWIW I thought the hut was made of bamboo. The wood is from East India; the autochthon is from Africa; the missionaries are from the Western World. But don't leave out the animals: a smilodon (sure, maybe some Asiatic tiger/African cat); an oreodont; a red-breasted, blue-backed parrot; and a reptile with evil teeth and a finned back. =mantis= --- ### Roy C. Lackey *17 Mar 1999, 16:44 · follows m.driussi* >> On Wed, 17 Mar 99 04:31:00 GMT, mantis wrote: >> Huh. I thought "C. Sappan" aka brazilwood aka "bresel wood" (when it >> was first imported to medieval Europe) is aka "the East Indian >> redwood" because its wood is a bright red in color and yields a red >> dye. (Yes, yes--the South American country was named after the Asian >> wood, not the other way around.)<< Correct, but what I related from the OED about the root of C. Sappan is also correct, just not relevant, apparently. What I meant to suggest is the possibility that the location of the jungle, ambiguous in the text, might be in Southeast Asia, where the French certainly had possessions. Robert was schooled in Paris, after all. >> FWIW I thought the hut was made of bamboo.<< I agree with you, FWIW. Roy ---