Eschatology and Genesis revisited The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 30 Mar 1999 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/1459 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== CRCulver — 30 Mar 1999, 22:14 In late 1997, there was a discussion of "Eschatology and Genesis" which was essentially my introduction to the list, and now it is archived in the 5th volumes of the archives. Now translating the play into Esperanto as a sort of intellectual exercise (no foolin'), I can see several interesting issues not previously covered. Alice Turner wrote: <> Alice says that Baldanders represents the cacogens, and I must humbly disagree. It would seem to me that the cacogens are represented by the two demons. In their little lecture to the Autarch, they speak of the new continents to be raised by the New Sun, especially of the precious metals soon to be exposed. Wolfe, in his role as translator, speculates that it is the possible trade of metals (as well as food and slave labour) which give the cacogens a reason to communicate with Urth. Also, the joy of the demons at the coming of the New Sun is furthermore tied to the Hierodules because, according to "The Key to the Universe" in volume four, the New Sun itself is a tool of the Hieros, used to "shape" humanity. Does this hold water? - Christopher Culver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------