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  "thread": {
    "id": 1467,
    "subject": "E&G revisited",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1999-04-01T02:35:49+00:00",
    "last": "1999-04-01T02:35:49+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0024-0122@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Roy C. Lackey",
        "address": "rclackey at stic.net"
      },
      "date": "1999-04-01T02:35:49+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: E&G revisited",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "On 3-30-99 Christopher Culver <crculver at aol.com> wrote:\nAlice says that Baldanders represents the cacogens, and I must humbly\ndisagree. It would seem to me that the cacogens are represented by the two\ndemons. In their little lecture to the Autarch, they speak of the new\ncontinents to be raised by the New Sun, especially of the precious metals\nsoon"
        },
        {
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "to be exposed. Wolfe, in his role as translator, speculates that it is the\npossible trade of metals (as well as food and slave labour) which give the\ncacogens a reason to communicate with Urth.\nAlso, the joy of the demons at the coming of the New Sun is furthermore tied\nto the Hierodules because, according to \"The Key to the Universe\" in volume\nfour, the New Sun itself is a tool of the Hieros, used to \"shape\" humanity.\nDoes this hold water?<<\n\n    Bolstering your argument: In chapter XLVIII of _Urth_ Sev recalls that\nscene from the play and writes:\n\n    \"I, who boast of forgetting nothing, had forgotten that it was the\ndemons who had spoken so.\"\n\nRoy"
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