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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/1541",
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  "archive": "urth",
  "thread": {
    "id": 1541,
    "subject": "Catherine",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1999-04-14T07:45:04+00:00",
    "last": "1999-04-14T07:45:04+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0025-0089@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Roy C. Lackey",
        "address": "rclackey at stic.net"
      },
      "date": "1999-04-14T07:45:04+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Catherine",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Robert Borski wrote:\nFor starters we have a slight problem in ages. If Dorcas is pregnant (and\nI"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "do believe she is), when does Sev impregnate the adult version of this\nchild?<<\n\n    I never suggested he did. The Contessa (Carina)/Catherine is _not_\npregnant by Sev. Not at all. I didn't know you were doing an article on this\nsubject for NYRSF, or I wouldn't have said what I have; there's too much\noverlap--I think. <g>\n\n    I don't see the \"old fashioned name\" angle as an obstacle."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Lastly, it seems unlikely that Dorcas is"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "tall enough to\nconfer upon Severian via \"Catherine\" the exultant height he allegedly\nhas--more likely with a double dose of her petititeness (one from Ouen, one\nfrom \"Catherine\") he'd be on the runtish side, if even viable, given the\nhigher likelihood of paired lethal recessives.<<\n\n    \"Katharine\" is tall and so is Ouen. Sev describes Ouen, in _Citadel_, as\nbeing \"about as tall as Drotte\". At the beginning of the same chapter Sev\nsays that he (Sev) is taller than Drotte by \"the width of two fingers\", i.e.\nabout an inch. So Sev has the genes for height. (For example: I'm a head\ntaller than my wife, and the older of our sons is an inch or two taller than\nI am.) There was no need for Wolfe to mention Drotte's height--twice--except\nto draw attention to Ouen's."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "And"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "while it's possible the adult version of \"Catherine\" might be able to\ntravel back in time via The Corridors or Atrium of Time, I see no evidence\nthat\nDorcas understands how to access them <<\n\n    She doesn't need to."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Re: Catherine = Katharine--mantis is almost certainly right here, and\nit's one of *many* recursive loops in New Sun.<<"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "    Yes indeed. As for \"Catherine\" being of prime, child-bearing age; she's\nable to kill time in the same way as \"Katharine\" has for so many years, by\nthe agency of whatever \"higher power\" is running the show.\n\nRoy"
        }
      ]
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