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  "archive": "urth",
  "thread": {
    "id": 1578,
    "subject": "men of iron",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1999-04-26T15:04:49+00:00",
    "last": "1999-04-26T15:04:49+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0026-0031@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Tony Ellis",
        "address": "tony.ellis at futurenet.co.uk"
      },
      "date": "1999-04-26T15:04:49+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: men of iron",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Roy C. Lackey wrote:\n    In URTH Sidero tells Sev how his (Sidero's) kind came to be. They\nstarted out as glorified spacesuits for the sailors, becoming, as more\ngadgetry and circuits were added, self-aware entities capable of independent\naction. They are hollow because they were originally designed to house human\nsailors. Because they are hollow they are lightweight. Sev calls them\nandroids and realizes that that is what Jonas had once been (chapter VIII).\nWhen he carried Jonas from the Antechamber he was surprised at how\nlightweight he was and speculated that it was due to his metal parts being\nmade of some lightweight alloy. Wrong. He was lightweight because the metal\nparts were hollow, and the metal parts were made of iron, if not literally\nat least metaphorically."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "And Matthew Malthouse wrote:\nIf one accepts that the simplest solution suffices then Jonas and Sidero\ncan be taken to be entities of the same kind - ex-space armour. But the\ncontrast between Sidero's strenght and Jonas' weakness is marked. That\nweaknes I'd ascribe to the failing of the human parts Jonas used to\nrepair himself which leads me to wonder how such a repair could have\nbeen effected on a hollow body."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Yes. Sidero is a completely different kind of android to Jonas. The mere\nfact that Severian can climb inside him tells us that he is far more\nbulky than a human being. There is also moment in UOTNS when Severian\nactually sees two androids of Jonas's make."
        }
      ]
    }
  ]
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