# Jonas's memories *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 28 May 1999* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Tony Ellis *28 May 1999, 10:02* Robert Borski wrote (of Jonas): > ...The details about his donor > (such as Pop being a craftsman) he could have absorbed locally, especially > if he takes up with his now fellow tinkers. No arguments this time :-), just a gloss. I think when Jonas says his father was a craftsman what he really means is that the man who built him was an engineer. It's just his way of fooling his friend Severian without lying more than he has to. I speculated a little about this way back in Urth vol. 8 (post dated 24/03/98 - hey, that was the day after my birthday). It took me three seconds to find that speculation, by looking up "craftsman" with the new Search facility. Ranjit, you're a star. ---