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  "thread": {
    "id": 1654,
    "subject": "Rust, straw man, & Jonas",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1999-06-01T05:43:42+00:00",
    "last": "1999-06-01T05:43:42+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0027-0037@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Roy C. Lackey",
        "address": "rclackey at stic.net"
      },
      "date": "1999-06-01T05:43:42+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Rust, straw man, & Jonas",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "On Sat, 8 May 1999 18:35:44 +0200, Potto opined:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Congratulations to Nigel Price: very interesting and even graceful\ninput on the religious issue. A welcome change from this increasingly\nrusty topic of the iron men; shouldn't we move on to other threads,\nlike whether Severian's guild cloak is made from tussah, chenille, or\nsilk?<<"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "    After weeks of exhaustive research, consisting of spirited discourse\nwith the denizens living in and around the dumpster behind Barnes&Noble, it\nis my considered opinion that Sev's cloak was made from the same material as\nSuperman's cape -- which is apropos for comic-book heroes (read: \"graphic\nnovel\"). Of course, as a Man of Steel, Mr. Kent doubtless is subject to the\nsame processes of oxidation as more humble iron men. <g>"
        },
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          "text": "On Sat, 8 May 1999 23:45:07, William Ansley wrote:\nAm I missing the point of this list? No, I realize that putting Wolfe's\nwords through the wringer is a large part of the point (and the fun) of\nthis discussion group. But I do get weary, from time to time, of someone\nmaking some outrageous claim about one of Wolfe's works and justifying it\nby saying \"Wolfe would never have mentioned (or repeated) so trivial a\npoint if it didn't mean that I am right and everyone else is wrong.\" Or,\n\"The fact that Wolfe never mentions this means that I am right and everyone\nelse is wrong.\" (I should have said above: \"every paragraph, phrase, word,\nletter and bit of punctuation Wolfe puts *or doesn't put* on paper is of\ncosmic significance.\")"
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          "text": "Am I aware that I am setting up a straw man here? Perhaps I am, but I think\nsome posts on this list have come perilously close to my examples.<<\n\n    I have reread every post I have ever made to this list and have NEVER\nclaimed \" ... that I am right and everyone else is wrong\" , whether based on\nwhat Wolfe did or didn't include in the text, or any other criteria. Nor,\nfor that mater, can I recall anyone else who has."
        },
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          "depth": 2,
          "text": "On Wed, 26 May 1999 13:29:21, Robert Borski wrote:\nFor isn't Jonas, a former servitor of the Hierodules, from Yesod? ... This\nwould allow for Jonas/Sidero to have crashed in the future ...<<"
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          "text": "    Just like that. <g> Without preamble or explication you have put Jonas\non Tzad's ship (how else would he get to Yesod?) and equated him with\nSidero. And no one says a word about it! I didn't go that far in my \"iron\nmen\" posts, yet was pilloried! Is it my keyboard, or what? <g>\n\nRoy"
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