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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/1698",
    "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it.  Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 1698,
    "subject": "\"Another ancient greek of the same name\"",
    "messages": 3,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "1999-06-23T09:08:38+00:00",
    "last": "1999-06-24T09:12:30+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0027-0114@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David_Lebling",
        "address": "david_lebling at avid.com"
      },
      "date": "1999-06-23T09:08:38+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) \"Another ancient greek of the same name\"",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Roy C. Lackey wrote:\nJonas says: \"I know where we are,\" ... \"and raised one arm stiffly to point\ntoward\nsomething I had taken to be a folding screen.\" Sev asks where, and Jonas\nanswers\n\"On Urth\", then walks across the room to the panels."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I've always taken this to mean that only at that moment does Jonas realize that\nhe's on Earth, rather than some very odd colony world. His knowledge is\nobviously based on reading the odd glyphs (there must be mirror-teleporters all\nover the galaxy).\n\nPerhaps this is too simplistic a reading, but I have a mental picture of the\nsoftware that does his speech having a slot for \"the planet I'm on = 'Urth'\",\n\"the home world = 'Earth'\"; but of course, the two are homophones, so Severian\nis a bit confused when Jonas says \"On <the home world>.\"\n\n     Dave Lebling\n     (aka vizcacha)"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0027-0117@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Roy C. Lackey",
        "address": "rclackey at stic.net"
      },
      "date": "1999-06-23T16:55:39+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: \"Another ancient greek of the same name\"",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0027-0114@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "depth": 2,
          "text": "vizcacha wrote:\nRoy C. Lackey wrote:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Jonas says: \"I know where we are,\" ... \"and raised one arm stiffly to\npoint toward\nsomething I had taken to be a folding screen.\" Sev asks where, and Jonas\nanswers\n\"On Urth\", then walks across the room to the panels."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "I've always taken this to mean that only at that moment does Jonas realize\nthat"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "he's on Earth, rather than some very odd colony world. His knowledge is\nobviously based on reading the odd glyphs (there must be mirror-teleporters\nall over the galaxy).\nPerhaps this is too simplistic a reading, but I have a mental picture of the\nsoftware that does his speech having a slot for \"the planet I'm on ='Urth'\",\n\"the home world = 'Earth'\"; but of course, the two are homophones, so\nSeverian is a bit confused when Jonas says \"On <the home world>.\" <<\n\nDavid,\n\n    I can only give you my word as assurance that I did not rip you off for\nthe homophone angle. I wrote my earlier post last night but did not send it\nuntil today. When I checked the urth list this afternoon I saw that you had\nposted a similar idea this morning. Bad timing on my part--and it's not the\nfirst time such a thing has happened to me. Perhaps we can just chalk it up\nto the old saw about great minds thinking alike. <g>\n\nRoy"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0027-0118@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Peter Stephenson",
        "address": "pws at ibmth.df.unipi.it"
      },
      "date": "1999-06-24T09:12:30+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Re: \"Another ancient greek of the same name\"",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0027-0117@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "\"Roy C. Lackey\" wrote:\nvizcacha wrote:\nPerhaps this is too simplistic a reading, but I have a mental picture of the\nsoftware that does his speech having a slot for \"the planet I'm on ='Urth'\",\n\"the home world = 'Earth'\"; but of course, the two are homophones, so\nSeverian is a bit confused when Jonas says \"On <the home world>.\" <<\n\nPerhaps we can just chalk it up\nto the old saw about great minds thinking alike. <g>"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "This was going through my mind, too, and it seems to tie up the loose end\nin the most plausible.  It's the sort of mistake Severian makes a lot.\nNice way of illustrating that even if (as Thackeray kept insisting) the\nnarrator is omniscient, he still doesn't know everything :-).\n\ncorncrake"
        }
      ]
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