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  "thread": {
    "id": 1725,
    "subject": "Proust etc.",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1999-07-26T20:31:39+00:00",
    "last": "1999-07-27T08:32:24+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0028@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice Turner",
        "address": "akt at ibm.net"
      },
      "date": "1999-07-26T20:31:39+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Proust etc.",
      "in_reply_to": null,
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          "text": "My dear corncrake!\n\nChapeaux off to you indeed! One small correction: frangipane means powdered\nor ground almonds, often mixed with fine sugar. Akin to marzipane, but dry.\n\nEtamine can be a fine sieve in cooking, but also refers to gauzy feminine\ngarments, either chemises or gowns (think Josephine in those transparent\nEmpire frocks). My guess is that it here refers to the finely woven\naltar-cloth (I have Proust in English right up there on the shelf, but I'm\nnot going to look unless you tell me exactly where this is).\n\nWayman's Garden Encyclopedia comes to the rescue:\n\nNymphaea (nim-FEE-a) A genus of hardy and tropical water-lilies belonging to\nthe Water-lily Family, with rounded leaves floating on the surface of the\nwater (sometimes colored underneath) and with flowers floating on the\nsurface or standing a few inches above the water; flowers white, yellow,\npink, red or blue, with many variations in the gorgeously flowered hybrids.\nSome bloom during the day, some at night. The fruits are usually borne under\nthe water.\n\n(This is quite lyrical for old Wayman.)\n\n-alga"
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0029@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Peter Stephenson",
        "address": "pws at ibmth.df.unipi.it"
      },
      "date": "1999-07-27T08:32:24+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Proust etc.",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0028-0028@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "\"Alice Turner\" wrote:\nOne small correction: frangipane means powdered\nor ground almonds, often mixed with fine sugar. Akin to marzipane, but dry."
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          "text": "OK, I didn't look that up.  I may have got confused with the older english\nfor marzipan, marchpane, which is no more like the french than the modern\nword, but different enough to confuse me, which tends to be quite easy."
        },
        {
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          "text": "Etamine can be a fine sieve in cooking, but also refers to gauzy feminine\ngarments, either chemises or gowns (think Josephine in those transparent\nEmpire frocks). My guess is that it here refers to the finely woven\naltar-cloth (I have Proust in English right up there on the shelf, but I'm\nnot going to look unless you tell me exactly where this is)."
        },
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          "text": "Aha, this sounds more in the right direction; Cassells didn't have this\neither.  For orientation, we are in the `Combray' part of Swann's Way (this\nedition goes straight into Combray, there's no separate `Ouverture',\ni.e. the first sentences of Combray is `Longtemps, je me suis couch'e de\nbonne heure'), which lasts from about page 90 (after a long introduction)\nto about page 300, where Swann in Love starts --- the Guermantes Way\nbusiness is right before that, and the stuff I quoted lies between pages\n217 and 281 (as I gave them).  The English may well have a resum'e too, I\nthink mine did."
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          "text": "Nymphaea (nim-FEE-a) A genus of hardy and tropical water-lilies belonging to\nthe Water-lily Family"
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          "text": "Maybe I should have paid more attention to what these were doing in the\nVivonne, then, but I switched off in exhaustion after `nenuphar'.\n\ncorncrake"
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