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  "thread": {
    "id": 173,
    "subject": "Little Wolfe Moments",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1997-08-22T09:00:11+00:00",
    "last": "1997-08-22T11:28:04+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0004-0260@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Patri10629",
        "address": "patri10629 at aol.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-08-22T09:00:11+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Little Wolfe Moments",
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      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Thanks Dan Rabin for giving us a whole new thread.\n\nI think it's worth pursuing, because as much as I enjoy of our analyses of\nvarious textual mysteries, I think we also need to relish and notice the\nbricks that make Wolfe's walls of narrative so great.\n\nI appreciate your 2 examples from the New Sun books of unexpected violence.\nHe's very good at it. They remind me of that moment in the tunnels when Auk\nlures the cannibal guy into proximity and they reminisce about old friends.\n\"He's dead,\" says Auk. \"You, too.\" Ka-POW.\n\nSo sue me. I like ka-POWS:)\n\nI hasten to add that we don't wish to degrade the discussion into a list of\nAmerica's Favorite Wolfe Moments of Violence.\n\nSo I'll mention another less gruesome passage in The Long Sun Books when\n(after hundreds of pages where the POV is strictly, comfortably Human, while\nwe're still being rocked in the arms, as it were, of a soothing third person\nomniscient narrator--rather like Silk and his assumed theology, eh?) suddenly\nwe're in the head of a bird who waxes pragmatic on the merits of Humans:\n\"They throw away the best parts of fish/food? The eyeballs.\" Could this be a\npreview of the later paradigm shift when the actual narrator is revealed?\n\nThis moment staggered and charmed me when it happened. I adore Oreb. (I have\na weakness for birds. ) On rereading it...whew--I relearned the lesson that\nWolfe is never gratuitous, and there is Always much much more going on than\nmeets the eye:)\n\n\nbest\n\nPatrick"
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0004-0261@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Straight",
        "address": "straight at email.unc.edu"
      },
      "date": "1997-08-22T11:28:04+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Little Wolfe Moments",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0004-0260@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "When I saw the movie Conact (very minor spoiler here) and Jodie Foster met\nthe blind guy, and it took her a few moments to realize he was blind, and\nno one ever came out and said \"oh, he's blind,\" I thought \"they stole that\nfrom the first few chapters of Shadow of the Torturer.\" \n\n-Rostrum"
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