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  "thread": {
    "id": 1848,
    "subject": "Juturna; Mysteries",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1999-10-25T17:20:12+00:00",
    "last": "1999-10-25T17:20:12+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0224@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David_Lebling",
        "address": "david_lebling at avid.com"
      },
      "date": "1999-10-25T17:20:12+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Juturna; Mysteries",
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          "text": "\"Greene, Carlton\" <CGreene2 at hunton.com> asks:\n<<Sev says of Juturna: \"She saved me once when\nI was a boy\" and then to her \"Do you remember that?\"  Juturna replies \"No.\nIt hasn't yet occurred.  It will, because you spoke.\">>\n\nI've always assumed that this means that Juturna will now swim through time and\nthen Gyoll to assure that Severian is saved.  That is, it is the Juturna of the\npresent of _Urth of the New Sun_ who goes back and saves him from drowning in\n_Shadow of the Torturer_.  I concede that the living-backwards explanation is\npossible as well, though to be honest, I think that Ossipago et al. live\nbackwards only in the sense that Severian's earlier (in his life) meetings of\nthem are with later (in their life) versions of themselves.  No one ever bothers\nto be clear in the books, using metaphors like the Brook Madregot when\ntime-travel is meant.  So, \"living backwards\" is just a metaphoric way of\nexplaining their peculiar interactions with Severian, who is, after all, a\nbarbarian.\n\nWilliam Ansley writes:\n<<This invites you to analyze the text in a way that\nmore ordinary books don't, but it tends to lead to the conclusion that\nevery mystery Wolfe sets has a solution.>>\n\nI refer you to the motto/colophon of the Urth Archive web site. It is Wolfe\nspeaking through the mouth of Agia...\n\n     -- Dave Lebling\n     (aka vizcacha)"
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