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  "thread": {
    "id": 1875,
    "subject": "PKD a modernist?",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1999-10-27T16:39:23+00:00",
    "last": "1999-10-27T16:39:23+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0288@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Ron Hale-Evans",
        "address": "rwhe at apocalypse.org"
      },
      "date": "1999-10-27T16:39:23+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) PKD a modernist?",
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          "text": "At 03:45 AM 10/27/99 -0400, you wrote:\nWell, I'm sort of astonished that there's so much interest in this subject,\nbut it's a kick, too. I'll add a couple of thoughts. I mentioned -Catch-22-\nas \"pop modernism.\" I'd like to add to that category the oeuvres of Kurt\nVonnegut and Philip K. Dick. Vonnegut was an interesting writer, early on.\nHe's become a lazy hack, and I think it's great that he's announced his\n\"retirement,\" since I don't want to read any more of his books. Dick was a\nhack too, but I think he could be counted among the more interesting pop\nmodernists. I confess that I never could read much of him either. (One of\nthe conditions for joining the club seems to be relative unreadability.) His\npost-mortem elevation is certainly a phenomenon."
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          "text": "alga, to label Dick as a modernist writer is barely comprehensible to me.\nTo me he has always seemed a, if not the, quintessential postmodernist\nwriter. As for his being a hack, remember what Stanislaw Lem said of him:\nthat he brought gold from the trash. PKD may have been a hack, but _qua_\nhack, he was a great artist.\n\nAnd I find him also compulsively readable. But I guess you have to have\nbeen there...\n\nObWolfe: I wonder if Lem would today revise his opinion that PKD is the\nonly great contemporary SF writer if he read Wolfe. Or Egan.\n\nRon H-E"
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          "text": "Ron Hale-Evans: rwhe at apocalypse.org  ... <http://www.apocalypse.org/~rwhe/>\nCenter for Ludic Synergy:        <http://www.ludism.org/>\nKennexions GBG artgame:          <http://kennexions.ludism.org/>\nHexagram-8 I Ching Mailing List: <http://www.apocalypse.org/~rwhe/hex8.html>\nPositive Revolution FAQ:         <http://www.ludism.org/posrev/>"
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