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  "thread": {
    "id": 1878,
    "subject": "Geography",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1999-10-27T19:56:59+00:00",
    "last": "1999-10-28T01:25:16+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0294@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice Turner",
        "address": "akt at attglobal.net"
      },
      "date": "1999-10-27T19:56:59+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Geography",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "First, Daniel, there are two lovely trade paperback Borges compendia out,\none fiction, one nonfiction. Check out Amazon. And Dan (the other), very\ninteresting about DFW.\n\nRoy Lackey said smugly:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "autarch corrects him: \"Half  what you said of them was incorrect. They do\nnot come from the hot countries of the north [i.e., near the equator], but\nfrom the continent that lies across the equator.\" Sorry, alga, but there\nit\nis."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "No, Roy, there it isn't. Never for a minute have I claimed that Sev's part\nof Urth was not in the southern hemisphere. It is, definitely, irrefutably.\nMy theory depends on two instances of plate techtonics: (1) that the land\nmass of Africa is pushing up against Europe (as indeed it is) and by the\ntime this book takes place the Mediterranean is not a sea but a river, the\nGyoll, which debouches into either the Red Sea or the Nile or a kind of\ncompendium; (2) that the land mass comprising Afro-Euro-Asia (with some\nparts broken off--Scandinavia becoming those southern islands) has migrated\naround the globe and southwards to where South America is now.\n\nThus it beomes possible to have a landscape of the heart, which is how I\nonce described it to mantis. In my heart I know that Fr. Ultan's library is\nin Alexandria, that the labyrinth of the House Absolute is at Knossos, that\nthe stone town is Athens (and that when you go back a million years [say] at\nthat lattitude and longitude you find yourselves not in Greece but in South\nAmerica), that Lake Diuturna covers Rome, that the Pelerine's camp is in\nSwitzerland and that Master Ash's house is atop an Alp.\n\nWhat is more, I can map my geography. Can you map yours? Lay a ruler on a\nmap from Alexandria NW to Switzerland and have a look. Detour up to Istanbul\nfor Acis, and Sev then goes overland through the witchy Balkans (then as\nnow) to Typhon, whom I usually place at Mt. Etna.\n\nI don't want to argue this geography. Let's just say that you're not going\nto change my mind. And I'm probably not going to change yours either.\n\n-alga"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0299@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Roy C. Lackey",
        "address": "rclackey at stic.net"
      },
      "date": "1999-10-28T01:25:16+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) RE: Geography",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0028-0294@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "alga wrote:\n\n[snip]"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Thus it beomes possible to have a landscape of the heart, which is how I\nonce described it to mantis. In my heart I know that Fr. Ultan's library is\nin Alexandria, that the labyrinth of the House Absolute is at Knossos, that\nthe stone town is Athens (and that when you go back a million years [say] at\nthat lattitude and longitude you find yourselves not in Greece but in South\nAmerica), that Lake Diuturna covers Rome, that the Pelerine's camp is in\nSwitzerland and that Master Ash's house is atop an Alp.<<"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "[snip]"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "I don't want to argue this geography. Let's just say that you're not going\nto change my mind. And I'm probably not going to change yours either.<<"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "How can I possibly argue with that!? <g> I surrender my sword, for...\n\n\"Where in dreams I have not wandered, my heart is slow to go.\"\n\nRoy"
        }
      ]
    }
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