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  "thread": {
    "id": 188,
    "subject": "Indian Rope Tricks",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1997-08-28T17:22:53+00:00",
    "last": "1997-08-29T00:14:00+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0004-0279@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice Turner",
        "address": "al at ny.playboy.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-08-28T17:22:53+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Indian Rope Tricks",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Here, whether you want it or not, is a list of the 13 Algonkian tribes, and\napproximately where they hang out:\n\nALGONKIAN GROUP\n\nAbenaki--Vermont\nArapaho--Great Plains (WY)\nBlackfoot--Montana, Alberta\nCheyenne--Great Plains\nCree--West Coast\nFox--Minnesota\nGros Ventre (White Clay People)--Montana\nMaliseet--Maine, Newfoundland\nMi'kmaq--Nova Scotia\nMontagnais--Quebec, Labrador\nNaskapi--Quebec\nOdawa--Minnesota, Ontario\nOjibwa--Michigan\n\nSo Ojibwa (aka Chippewa--bet you didn't know that) looks good, eh?\nUnfortunately, I found an Ojibwa site with animal names, and it didn't work.\nMore sleuthing: aha, the Potawatami seem to be smack dab on site, but though\nI couldn't find a language site for them, it's supposed to be pretty close\nto the Ottawa (Odawa), Ojibwa and Algonkin, and allied to the Illinois and\nMiami (because of the nature of web engines, it's virtually impossible to\ntrack anything down on the latter two).\n\nBut, serendipity produced its usual prizes: I discovered that the Mohegan\n(Mohican) is the Wolf tribe (hello Natty Bumppo!) and---are you sitting\ndown, mantis?---Sioux is French for....the Cutthroat tribe.\n\n-alga-"
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0004-0281@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "m.driussi",
        "address": "m.driussi at genie.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-08-29T00:14:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Indian Rope Tricks",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0004-0279@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "Reply:  Item #4346774 from URTH at LISTS.BEST.COM@INET03#\n\nalga,\n\nSioux as French for \"cutthroat\" (er, \"cultellarii\"?) now =that= is\nvery interesting, since it ties in =exactly= with the element of \"The\nTale of the Boy Called Frog\" of TBOTNS, wherein the teacher of all\nthese animal Kiplingoids is called, not the expected Baloo the Bear\n(hmmm), but the Naked One, \"who was also called the Savage, or Squanto\"\n(III, ch. 19).  This character is the one who taught Frog to plough the\nfish, leading Frog to plough his twin brother Fish; this name belongs\nto a Native American Indian of the Pawtuxet tribe who is said to have\ntaught the pilgrims how to plough the fish.\n\nInteresting that the teacher character in both stories (TS and TBCF)\nis linked to a Native American Indian name.\n\nOTOH, since he looks like his throat has been cut, does this mean\nthat we have at long last determined the group that cut him?  (One\npresumes that the \"Cutthroat Tribe\" got their name for doing unto\nothers rather than self-inflicting, no?)\n\n=mantis="
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