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  "thread": {
    "id": 1924,
    "subject": "Severian the Liar",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1999-11-05T13:43:53+00:00",
    "last": "1999-11-05T14:16:22+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0393@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Ouroboros",
        "address": "ottofaij at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "1999-11-05T13:43:53+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Severian the Liar",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "<<<<I really can't think of any instances (other than\nthings that are just odd--who said what on page #1)\nwhere Severian outright lies.>>>>>>>>\n\nI have a hypothesis that every time Severian mentions\nhis unparalleled memory, there is a Roche/Drotte-type\ncontradiction of fact before and after it. Eventually,\nI'll test that hypothesis, but, Ron, since your just\nbeginning to reread the cycle, keep an eye out for it.\n\nI also believe that Severians \"resurrection\" from the\nNessus is the point where Severian the Concilliator,\nSeverian the New Sun, begins. If anyone is looking for\na connection between Severian and Jesus Christ, this\nis it. Severian is just a torturer's apprentice until\nthen. The bottom of the Nessus is the grave, and when\nSeverian comes out of it, he's totally new. \n\nMy point is that Severian's statement that he's a\nhabitual liar need not be treated concurrent with the\nstory since it could be read as refering to how he had\nbehaved before."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0394@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Carlos Martinho",
        "address": "carlosom71 at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "1999-11-05T14:16:22+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Severian the Liar",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0028-0393@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I also believe that Severians \"resurrection\" from\nthe\nNessus is the point where Severian the Concilliator,\nSeverian the New Sun, begins. If anyone is looking\nfor\na connection between Severian and Jesus Christ, this\nis it. Severian is just a torturer's apprentice\nuntil\nthen. The bottom of the Nessus is the grave, and\nwhen\nSeverian comes out of it, he's totally new. "
        },
        {
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          "text": " \nNessus? I can be mistaken, but I think you mean the\nriver Gyoll (is this the correct spelling?). This\ncould be a Christian paralel, anyway: not with the\nresurrection of Christ -- wich, anyway, marks the end\nof Jesus's \"career\" on Earth --, but the Baptism by John."
        }
      ]
    }
  ]
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