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  "thread": {
    "id": 1945,
    "subject": "Lies, lies, lies",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1999-11-09T08:30:31+00:00",
    "last": "1999-11-09T08:30:31+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0443@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Ouroboros",
        "address": "ottofaij at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "1999-11-09T08:30:31+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Lies, lies, lies",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Roy wrote:\nNow, these are just a few examples I stumbled"
        },
        {
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          "text": "across without really trying, where Sev is either\nlying for no good reason that I can see, or, more\nlikely...where Wolfe is showing the reader that Sev's\nmemory is less than perfect--or both.<<<<<\n\nLet's just say it and be done with it: Severian does\nnot have perfect memory inspite of his claims,\ncertainly not in an objective sense - if he did, Wolfe\nwould not let him keep repeating it. But Severian\nundoubtably *believes* he has perfect memory and\nthat's the key to what Wolfe is deliberately saying\nabout memory. Severian is IMO inspired by Jack Vance's\nCugel from the Dying Earth series. In addition to\nCugel's Severianish unheroic amorality (more extreme\nin Cugel's case), Cugel keeps calling himself \"Cugel\nthe Clever\" as he get's himself in deeper and deeper\ntrouble. In fact, Cugel calling himself \"the Clever\"\nis a signal that he is being or is about to be\nout-witted (or out-wit himself).\n\nRoy's list of \"lies\" cannot be lies since (as he Roy\npoints out) in those examples Severian has no apparent\nmotive to lie. I have already discussed my suspicions\nabout Severian's memory in my posting on Fri Oct. 29. \n\nThe swimming quotes and the variation in the charm are\ngood examples of Severian's faulty memory (or possibly\nWolfe's) but, again, see my earlier post. However the\nmausoleum/infancy \"lies\" don't even constitute errors\nin memory IMHO. \n\n-Ouroboros"
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