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  "thread": {
    "id": 20,
    "subject": "Swan, Jonasmiles",
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    "first": "1997-04-22T17:42:00+00:00",
    "last": "1997-04-22T17:42:00+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<urth-v0001-0025@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "m.driussi",
        "address": "m.driussi at genie.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-04-22T17:42:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Swan, Jonasmiles",
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          "text": "Reply:  Item #9534187 from URTH at LISTS.BEST.COM@INTERNET#\n\nNewt,\n\nSpeaking of fin-de-siecle aristocracy, I think that Thecla's birth\nsign is a pointer towards Proust.  Specifically, one of the more\nheroic characters in REMEMBRANCE OF THINGS PAST is a doomed nobleman\nnamed Swann; his torturous and jealousy driven love-life incredibly\nanticipates that of Marcel the narrator (is he imitating Swann or is\nhe remembering Swann so vividly because later events conspired to make\nhim into a Swann-clone?), in a manner refreshingly open to those who\nhave wrestled with the \"Severian and first-Severian\" paradox; Swann's\ndaughter Gilberte is one of the two love-objects in Marcel's life, but\nit is the other one (Albertine) who becomes entombed within Marcel;\netc.\n\nRe: Typhon's operation.  Don't forget V, ch. 38 and 39.  Also factor\nin the young ages of the offspring gods of the Whorl. Cobble\ntogether a timeline and put it up for review!\n\nRe: what resurrected Typhon.  I don't want to alarm you <g>, but remember\nthat whole thing about child sacrifice?  About how maybe, just maybe,\nJerboa killed a human child, for which he was impregnated with a\npiece of Pas?  Well, on Urth little Severian was charred ala Moloch while\nrunning towards the wedding band of the idol's dexter sinister (note:\nidol looking in sinister direction of sunset rather than holy\ndirection of sunrise).  (Typhon claims to have seen the boy get blasted,\nbut was that an astral body vision?)  Anywho, such practices fall\nunder the heading of \"tanist.\"\n\nIn a round-about way, I argue that it was the Claw; but I agree with\nyou (or hope that you will agree with me?) that the Claw is a creepy and\ncapricious thing.\n\nLike Jonas/Miles.  Happy version: Miles as the name of his peg-leg;\nin Yesod Jonas was repaired into a fully biological creature, came\nback to Urth in the past (Yesod time flow being the way it is),\njoined the army still hunting for Jolenta, was killed near Orithyia;\ncoincidentally found and resurrected by Severian.  Aside from the\nincredible coincidence, all points function within known bounds:\nClaw, Yesod, lost souls searching for their loved ones (Dorcas and\nher husband; alzabo and Casdoe's family), etc.\n\nDisturbing version: Miles a victim; the Claw aids and abets astral\nbody Jonas to hijack the newly resurrected body of an anonymous dead\nsoldier--why?  Because Severian needs a friend at that moment (!).\nThis would be an unusual trick for the Claw, but then, that's part of its\nnature, too--doing the unexpected.  Miracles.\n\nSeverian seems to believe the disturbing version and (I think) doesn't\neven consider the happy version.  FWIW.\n\n\"Jonasmiles\" like the Chesire cat?\n\n=mantis="
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