# A Little Dotty? * is an Artifact

*The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 22 Dec 1999*

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### Talarican
*22 Dec 1999, 21:29*

Dan,
" Hmmm, I always assumed the plate read: M . Million

Sometimes a dot is used to indicate multiplication.  "Monsieur" is
often abbreviated to "M." "

You're right, of course. I would actually have preferred to more correctly
use a "bullet" dot floating at mid-line height for this, but of course the
email character set wouldn't support it, so far as I know.

But that's how _I_ envisioned  what Number Five sees. His hungover
revelation comes when he realizes that the dot is not a period but a dot at
half-height in the line of text.

I tried to approximate it with an asterisk, which of course is also used as
a multiplication sign, esp. in most programming languages.

BTW I apologize to all for my mishap last couple of posts; I didn't realize
my new email software defaulted to HTML.

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### mark millman
*23 Dec 1999, 09:47 · follows Talarican*

> At 9:29 pm Wednesday 22 December 1999, "Talarican" 
> <chemmie at mindspring.com> wrote:
> Dan,
> Hmmm, I always assumed the plate 
> read: M . Million

>> Sometimes a dot is used to indicate 
>> multiplication.  "Monsieur" is often 
>> abbreviated to "M."

> You're right, of course. I would actually have 
> preferred to more correctly use a "bullet" dot 
> floating at mid-line height for this, but of course 
> the email character set wouldn't support it, so 
> far as I know.
> 
> But that's how _I_ envisioned  what Number 
> Five sees. His hungover revelation comes when 
> he realizes that the dot is not a period but a dot 
> at half-height in the line of text.
> 
> I tried to approximate it with an asterisk, which 
> of course is also used as a multiplication sign, 
> esp. in most programming languages.

I just got back from a business trip to England, where I saw
people use a dot, not at half-height in the line, but at the bot-
tom of the line (just like a punctuation period), to indicate mul-
tiplication.  Whether this is also customary in France, or among
Francophone mathematicians, I can't say, but it seems possible.

Mark Millman

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