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  "thread": {
    "id": 2073,
    "subject": "The Death of Koshchei the Deathless",
    "messages": 3,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "2000-01-17T01:35:16+00:00",
    "last": "2000-01-18T13:18:13+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0697@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "William H. Ansley",
        "address": "wansley at warwick.net"
      },
      "date": "2000-01-17T01:35:16+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) The Death of Koshchei the Deathless",
      "in_reply_to": null,
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          "text": "I found the story \"The Death of Koshchei the Deathless\" in _Strange\nTravelers_ very entertaining. Although I could tell it was based on \"fairy\ntale\" material. I didn't recognize that it was from a specific story until\nI read the note at the end. The title did seem tantalizingly familiar until\nI got to that point however.\n\n_The Red Fairy Book_ by Andrew Lang is available on line, if anyone is\ninterested in reading the original story Wolfe based his on. It is\ninteresting to see what he kept and what he changed. The Lang version of\nthe story is also interesting in its own right. The story seems to have\nbeen cobbled together from bits and pieces and the pieces don't all fit.\n\nThis URL should take you to a page that allows you to choose from variously\ncompressed versions of a text file containing _The Red Fairy Book_:\n\nhttp://sailor.gutenberg.org/by-title/xx1352.html\n\nThis URL is a direct link to download an uncomressed text version of the\nbook (its about 663 kB):\n\nftp://sailor.gutenberg.org/pub/gutenberg/etext96/rdfry10.txt\n\nWilliam Ansley"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0702@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Ron Hale-Evans",
        "address": "rwhe at apocalypse.org"
      },
      "date": "2000-01-18T10:03:38+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) The Death of Koshchei the Deathless",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0028-0697@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "At 01:35 AM 1/17/00 -0500, you wrote:\nI found the story \"The Death of Koshchei the Deathless\" in _Strange\nTravelers_ very entertaining. Although I could tell it was based on \"fairy\ntale\" material. I didn't recognize that it was from a specific story until\nI read the note at the end. The title did seem tantalizingly familiar until\nI got to that point however.\n\n_The Red Fairy Book_ by Andrew Lang is available on line, if anyone is\ninterested in reading the original story Wolfe based his on. "
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          "text": "Haven't read either the Wolfe or the Lang yet, but wasn't Koshchei the\nDeathless the grand-high-god-over-everything in James Branch Cabell's\nmammoth series _The Biography of Dom Manuel_? I believe he appears in\n_Jurgen_, among other novels.\n\nRon H-E"
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          "text": "Ron Hale-Evans: rwhe at apocalypse.org  ... <http://www.apocalypse.org/~rwhe/>\nCenter for Ludic Synergy:        <http://www.ludism.org/>\nKennexions GBG artgame:          <http://kennexions.ludism.org/>\nHexagram-8 I Ching Mailing List: <http://www.apocalypse.org/~rwhe/hex8.html>\nPositive Revolution FAQ:         <http://www.ludism.org/posrev/>"
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0703@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alex David Groce",
        "address": "alex_groce at gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu"
      },
      "date": "2000-01-18T13:18:13+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) The Death of Koshchei the Deathless",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0028-0702@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "He's definitely in _Jurgen_ (I haven't actually read _Jurgen_ or any other \nCabell, but I was told this long ago by someone who did their Master's\nThesis on Cabell when they noticed I was reading a Wolfe story with that\ntitle).  From what I gleaned then, the Koscheis in question are from the same\nsource/root, but radically differ.\n\n\n\"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.\" John 8:32"
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          "kind": "sig",
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          "text": "Alex David Groce (agroce+ at cs.cmu.edu)\nPh.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department\n8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066\nhttp://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce"
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