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  "thread": {
    "id": 2105,
    "subject": "The Ziggurat in context",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2000-01-31T12:34:54+00:00",
    "last": "2000-01-31T16:22:32+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0762@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Nicholas Gevers",
        "address": "vermoulian at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "2000-01-31T12:34:54+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) The Ziggurat in context",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Nutria, I'm afraid I'll have to delay my detailed take\non \"The Ziggurat\" until I've finished another, rather\nvexatious critical chore; but you're quite right that\nmy ST review will only appear in print some time off\n(in FOUNDATION), so here's a general comment. It seems\nto me that the stories in ST were selected with a\ntheme in common, that of escape. The world must be\nescaped or transcended; but the escape routes are\nmany, and only one (the route to Heaven) is a true\npath. The rest are snares, roads to damnation and\ndisaster. Emory's route is one such: self-indulgence,\nan impulse to dominate. It may make him feel in charge\nof his destiny for a while, but read in comparison\nwith the trends of the other stories, it won't lead\nanywhere good."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0763@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jim Jordan",
        "address": "jbjordan at gnt.net"
      },
      "date": "2000-01-31T16:22:32+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) The Ziggurat in context",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0028-0762@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "At 12:34 PM 1/31/00 -0800, you wrote:\nNutria, I'm afraid I'll have to delay my detailed take\non \"The Ziggurat\" until I've finished another, rather\nvexatious critical chore; but you're quite right that\nmy ST review will only appear in print some time off\n(in FOUNDATION), so here's a general comment. It seems\nto me that the stories in ST were selected with a\ntheme in common, that of escape. The world must be\nescaped or transcended; but the escape routes are\nmany, and only one (the route to Heaven) is a true\npath. The rest are snares, roads to damnation and\ndisaster. Emory's route is one such: self-indulgence,\nan impulse to dominate. It may make him feel in charge\nof his destiny for a while, but read in comparison\nwith the trends of the other stories, it won't lead\nanywhere good."
        },
        {
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Mebbe. I'll need more to be convinced. I accept your overall assessment of\nthe book as a collection. Maybe I should take the link between \"taming\" and\n\"Tamar\" more negatively, as a further example of male chauvinism instead of\nas a step in the right direction. Hmmm. That would not push me into any of\nthe extremely negative interpretations we've discussed here, but would\nindicate a sadder ending than I'd originally read. Any thots, Alga?\n\nNutria"
        }
      ]
    }
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