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  "thread": {
    "id": 2106,
    "subject": "ST sequence",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2000-02-01T13:47:37+00:00",
    "last": "2000-02-01T13:47:37+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0764@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jim Jordan",
        "address": "jbjordan at gnt.net"
      },
      "date": "2000-02-01T13:47:37+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) ST sequence",
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      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "At 01:31 AM 2/1/00 -0800, you wrote:\nNutria, a very interesting analysis of \"Pepper Mill\",\nand I think we have a growing sense of just how ST\nshould be read as a unified work, an extended series\nof meditations on a single theme. Consider also why\nthe collection should begin with \"Bluesberry Jam\" and\nend with \"Ain't You 'Most Done?\", and the impression\nof a progressive argument is reinforced."
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          "text": "\tYes, though I wonder how many readers will understand \nthe latter, unless they know Gaiman's characters. "
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          "text": "I thought of \"Pepper Mill\" all along as one of the\nmore hopeful entries in ST, depicting as it does a\nHeavenly intervention in a mundane crisis. But: if\n\"Pepper Mill\" illuminates \"The Ziggurat\" thematically,\ndoes the latter contain an equivalent intervention? Is\nthe ziggurat itself that intervention? Or is this too\npositive a spin? I think it is... Hmm. I must\nreexamine \"The Ziggurat\" as soon as possible."
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          "text": "\tIf the Zig is itself the intervention, which would\nSEEM to be the case, I may have to back off a bit into more \nambiguity, for the tower of Babel is not likely to be a symbol\nof divine intervention. But wait! This tower has been\nWRECKED! \n\tHmmmm. At the Ur-Babel (pun, hahaha), all were unified\nin hubris. God scattered them. The future women are all ... women, and \nthey all look alike. Destruction of the Zig would parallel condemnation\nof Babel. Confusion of tongues has already been noted, since Emory\ncannot understand the women's speech. Tamar is forced out of Babel's\nunified culture into something more heterogenous.\n\tSo, in what way has Emory's life been a Zig, a Babel, and in what\nsense has it been wrecked? In what sense has he also been forced out?\nPerhaps that's the subtext of everything that happens to him.\n\tAt the end, both persons have been forced out of their old Babels, \nand now have new opportunities. What they will make of them we're not\ntold, and I guess that can be seen as an ambiguity. Will they just rebabelize\ntheir lives, or live in true heterogeneity? (is that a word?)\n\tMake sense? Dunno. But fun to work on!\n\tI'll be away for a week starting tomorrow, so you guys can\nfigure this all out and let me know.\n\nNutria"
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