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  "thread": {
    "id": 2131,
    "subject": "Digest urth.v028.n153",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2000-02-11T14:46:43+00:00",
    "last": "2000-02-11T14:46:43+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0802@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice Turner",
        "address": "akt at attglobal.net"
      },
      "date": "2000-02-11T14:46:43+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: Digest urth.v028.n153",
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      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "From: \"Jeremy W. Crampton\" <jcrampto at gmu.edu>"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "How about the Soldier series?\n\nPersonally they're the most impressive to me (boring personal opinion but\nthere ya go). After Vol I of New Sun, natch. "
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I like them too. But I like novels set in the classical period (Renault, Graves, Mitchison, even that trashy but fun detective series set in ancient Rome)."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Okay I'll give one reason: Wolfe shows the social construction of belief\n(in the fine tradition of most skiffy, eg PKD, Ballard, Priest etc. The\nlatter's The Affirmation is a classic example). Particularly religious\nbelief of course. One of the central scenes in the Soldier books is the\nhuman sacrifice one, where Mother Ge talks about how for other people she\nis yet young, and that how when we stop believing in them the gods\ndisappear, ie they are human-dependent.** There's also all GW's talk of how\nhe is showing society as the Greeks really saw it, ie meeting gods on the\nway back from Marathon (Fennel Fields). Where are these gods now? Long time\npassing...\n\n**didn't Terry Pratchett also do this? What was it; Small Gods?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I think he's done it quite a bit. Death is always showing up. Pratchett's a clever lad. I haven't read much of him, but he's more than OK."
        },
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "From: Jim Jordan <jbjordan at gnt.net>"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "The traffic jam society is\nclearly symbolic of the \"world,\" especially the world of today (in\nChristian terms, of course: the three enemies being the world, the flesh,\nand the devil "
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Oy."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "A thought: The traffic jam is purgatory. This would link with *Peace,*\nwhere the character is also in purgatory. Remember that in RC thinking,\npurgatory is just the anteroom to heaven, and is not like hell at all.\nPurgatory is the place where a heavenbound person makes peace with his past\nand his sins. Just a thought...."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Gevalt.\n\n-alga"
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