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    "id": 2132,
    "subject": "The Borges is in the addendum",
    "messages": 2,
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    "first": "2000-02-17T07:30:18+00:00",
    "last": "2000-02-18T17:08:19+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0805@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi",
        "address": "mantis at sirius.com"
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      "date": "2000-02-17T07:30:18+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) The Borges is in the addendum",
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          "text": "Eek, the Borges chastisement continues!\n\nIn \"Additions, Errata, &cetera (volume I)\" (1995):\n\nBORGES, JORGE LUIS  some mirrors, books, Kabbalah, paradoxes, and mystery.\nSee \"Last Night in the Garden of Forking Tongues\" (PLAN[E]T ENGINEERING, p.\n138).\n--THE BOOK OF IMAGINARY BEINGS has a lot of relevant material.\n--\"Circular Ruins\" ties into \"The Tale of the Student and His Son\" (Adam\nThornton).\n--\"Funes the Memorius\" has photographic memory, like Severian (Clute,\nSTROKES, p. 152).\n--\"The Library of Babel\" ties into Library of Nessus (Clute, STROKES, p. 156).\n--\"Tlon, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius\" offers a kind of blueprint for The Book in\nits opening paragraph (Mike Marano), and it is a model for Wolfe's non-Urth\nstory \"Useful Phrases\" (Don Keller).\n\nThen, in \"Additions, Errata, &cetera (volume III)\" (1998):\n\n\"I [Ted Gerney] tried tracking down an earlier citation concerning Borges\nthan Clute's in STROKES.  The only mention of Borges I could find in CASTLE\nOF THE OTTER is on p. 15, in \"Sun of Helioscope,\" where Wolfe mentions a\ndifferent Borges short short story, \"Argumentum Ornithologicum\" in DREAM\nTIGERS.\n\n   \"However, in PLAN[E]T ENGINEERING, Wolfe does mention \"The Library of\nBabel,\" on p. 4, the first full paragraph, making a definite link between\nthe Library of Nessus and Borges's story\" [Ted Gerney].\n\nBut there is more, here in the archives (or \"there,\" depending upon your\nframe of reference).  The Urth list search engine should reveal all sorts\nof details, for example (granted that Ultan = Borges) the quiet debate over\nwhether Cyby is Gene Wolfe himself or what's his name, the famous\ntranslator of Borges.\n\nHappy searching!\n\n=mantis="
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0806@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jack and Melissa Holcomb",
        "address": "jackandmel at socket.net"
      },
      "date": "2000-02-18T17:08:19+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) The Borges is in the addendum",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0028-0805@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "Ah, geez, I'm sorry.  I just ordered AE&1-3, and haven't seen them yet.  I\ndidn't mean to be mean.\n\nThanks for all the great information!\n\nJack\njackandmel at socket.net"
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          "text": "Eek, the Borges chastisement continues!\n\nIn \"Additions, Errata, &cetera (volume I)\" (1995):\n\nBORGES, JORGE LUIS  some mirrors, books, Kabbalah, paradoxes, and mystery.\nSee \"Last Night in the Garden of Forking Tongues\" (PLAN[E]T ENGINEERING, p.\n138).\n--THE BOOK OF IMAGINARY BEINGS has a lot of relevant material.\n--\"Circular Ruins\" ties into \"The Tale of the Student and His Son\" (Adam\nThornton).\n--\"Funes the Memorius\" has photographic memory, like Severian (Clute,\nSTROKES, p. 152).\n--\"The Library of Babel\" ties into Library of Nessus (Clute, STROKES, p."
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          "text": "156)."
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          "text": "--\"Tlon, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius\" offers a kind of blueprint for The Book in\nits opening paragraph (Mike Marano), and it is a model for Wolfe's non-Urth\nstory \"Useful Phrases\" (Don Keller).\n\nThen, in \"Additions, Errata, &cetera (volume III)\" (1998):\n\n\"I [Ted Gerney] tried tracking down an earlier citation concerning Borges\nthan Clute's in STROKES.  The only mention of Borges I could find in CASTLE\nOF THE OTTER is on p. 15, in \"Sun of Helioscope,\" where Wolfe mentions a\ndifferent Borges short short story, \"Argumentum Ornithologicum\" in DREAM\nTIGERS.\n\n  \"However, in PLAN[E]T ENGINEERING, Wolfe does mention \"The Library of\nBabel,\" on p. 4, the first full paragraph, making a definite link between\nthe Library of Nessus and Borges's story\" [Ted Gerney].\n\nBut there is more, here in the archives (or \"there,\" depending upon your\nframe of reference).  The Urth list search engine should reveal all sorts\nof details, for example (granted that Ultan = Borges) the quiet debate over\nwhether Cyby is Gene Wolfe himself or what's his name, the famous\ntranslator of Borges.\n\nHappy searching!\n\n=mantis="
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          "text": "works"
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