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  "thread": {
    "id": 2137,
    "subject": "Calvino, Wolfe and languages",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2000-02-24T16:01:18+00:00",
    "last": "2000-02-24T16:01:18+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0028-0818@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Thomas Jeenicke",
        "address": "thomas_jeenicke at public.uni-hamburg.de"
      },
      "date": "2000-02-24T16:01:18+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Calvino, Wolfe and languages",
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          "text": "Alex David Groce wrote (message dated 22 Feb 10:04:54):"
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "\"If On a Winter's Night a Traveler\" was translated into English by William\nWeaver ... If I recall, a genre science fiction pastiche is, unfortunately,\nnot\namong the half-begun books that it contains."
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          "text": "That ist right, but the fragments of books in \"If On a Winter's Night a\nTraveler\" (certainly a better translation than my terrible try) are in my\nopinion not, in the first line, examples of genres, rather they are\ninstances of themes, or topoi. Most fragments (e.g. the 5th one) can't be\nattributed to a certain genre, but for all one can find a theme (in the case\nof the 5th it would something like \"brutal violence\"). - Wolfe's works\naltogether also can't be attributed to a certain genre - or it would be a\ngenre description so broad, that it would not be very useful. It is easier\nto characterize Wolfe by the themes he returns to again and again (like\n\"memory\" or \"rebirth\").\nBack to the question if there is a influence of Calvino on Wolfe: To finally\nsettle this, one must know which of Calvino's books were when translated\ninto English (and I don't know that). Or can Wolfe speak (or at least\nunderstand) Italian? It would generally be an interesting question  which\nlanguages Wolfe is versed in. To speak a foreign languages is a cultural\ninfluence which should not be underestimated.\n\nThanks to all who provided and provide information, to all who contribute to\nthis list (or the Whorl list) and who are patient with a newcomer to this\nlist whose skill in English is far from perfect!\n\nThomas"
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