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  "thread": {
    "id": 2275,
    "subject": "Sweet Home Malacandra",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2000-05-30T12:52:28+00:00",
    "last": "2000-05-30T15:35:09+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0029-0050@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan Parmenter",
        "address": "dan at lec.com"
      },
      "date": "2000-05-30T12:52:28+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Sweet Home Malacandra",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Alga: "
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I can see why Lewis never published \"Prelude to Space.\" It's awful, just\nawful! "
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Rostrum:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Yeah, I don't know that Walter Hooper is doing Lewis any favors publishing\nsome of this stuff, but it does give a pretty clear picture of his\nthoughts on the matter."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I thought that Hooper had been thoroughly discredited.  I haven't seen\n\"Prelude to Space\" but isn't THE DARK TOWER fragment that Hooper\npublished thought to be of questionable origin?  Wolfe himself\ndismissed it in some interview or other it on the grounds that he felt\nthat he was pretty good at recognizing authors' styles and it didn't\nread like Lewis to him.  I seem to recall reading a long and tedious\nweb page devited to this topic.  I thought it was an interesting read.\n\nAnd earlier Rostrum noted:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "It's a fine point, but he didn't think space travel and immortality\nare themselves sins, rather they are a bad idea because they would\nallow sin to grow beyond it's current bounds of time (a lifetime)\nand space (Earth)."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "To which Alga replied:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I would appreciate more on this. I've read these books (not for\nyears, true) without conciously picking up these points."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I think that this is only really explicitly stated in THAT HIDEOUS\nSTRENGTH, the third (and weirdest, IMHO) book.\n\nShellac"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0029-0051@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Straight",
        "address": "straight at email.unc.edu"
      },
      "date": "2000-05-30T15:35:09+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Sweet Home Malacandra",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0029-0050@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "On 30 May 2000, Dan Parmenter wrote:\nAnd earlier Rostrum noted:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "It's a fine point, but he didn't think space travel and immortality\nare themselves sins, rather they are a bad idea because they would\nallow sin to grow beyond it's current bounds of time (a lifetime)\nand space (Earth)."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I think that this is only really explicitly stated in THAT HIDEOUS\nSTRENGTH, the third (and weirdest, IMHO) book."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "There's also the scene in OUT OF THE SILENT PLANET where the scientist who\ncaptured Ransom is on \"trial\" and he gives this eloquent defense of\nhumanity's manifest destiny to conquer the stars, which becomes ridiculous\nwhen translated into the Malacandrian language.  I can't remember it\nexactly, but there's a part that, when translated, goes something like,\n\"He says that humans are never satisfied and always want more and compete\nwith each other and that only the strong survive, and that these are good\nthings and that therefore humanity has a right to spread everywhere.\"\n\nI don't remember for sure, but I wouldn't be suprised if there's also a\nhint of the idea in Ransom and Weston's conversations in PERELANDRA before\nhe becomes the Un-man.\n\n-Rostrum"
        }
      ]
    }
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