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  "thread": {
    "id": 2341,
    "subject": "PEACE-ful tangent",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2000-08-10T19:37:15+00:00",
    "last": "2000-08-10T19:37:15+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0029-0149@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi",
        "address": "mantis at sirius.com"
      },
      "date": "2000-08-10T19:37:15+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) PEACE-ful tangent",
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          "text": "GENTLE-men, discussion of PEACE belongs on the Urth list, not the Whorl list.\n\nA-hem.\n\nRight, I'll agree that the librarian is more up-in-the-air as a murder\nvictim. The icehouse worker, yes, Bobby Black, certainly.\n\nThe thing about the worker is this: there is so much going on in the\ntelling of that story to the reporter, I start to get some strange notions.\nFor example, the events of the story start happening again (which itself is\na common element of ghost stories, \"it was on a night just like tonight . .\n.\" \" . . . it's happening again!!\") when they can't find the reporter.  But\njust before that, Den asks Dan French if he had ever been locked in the\nfreezer himself (Berkley 232); Dan says \"I'm here, ain't I?\" (which is both\na negative [\"I'm alive, so I couldn't have been\"] and a positive [\"Why yes,\nbecause I'm the ghost that haunts this freezer\"]).\n\nDen says, a bit later, \"You remind me of somebody, but I can't recall who\nit is . . . . Someone who's dead now.  I can't remember\" (234).\n\nWell in PEACE that could be anybody or nobody, sure.  (And if anybody has a\nbetter candidate then by all means, let me know,) But within this very\nspecific context it sure seems to me (at times) as if Dan French physically\nlooks like the man who died in the freezer--thus, he is the son, grandson,\nnephew, or otherwise male relative of the dead man.  Telling the story to\nthe killer, like a ghost looking for a confession. (Dan doesn't know, I\ndon't think; Den avoids figuring it out.)\n\nAfter the freezer bit, Dan French gives a bit of his genealogy, and whack!\nif he ain't a Doherty (who slide like sidhe through the truth and lies of\nthat town), probably even related to Kate Boyne.\n\nOn to the case of Bobby Black.\n\nThe thing that gets me about this one, right now, is the way that the\nportrait of little Joe, which starts off the whole tussle, it is just so\ncreepy: like a family curse (just as Joe died so young, so will Bobby die)\nas well as a ghostly revenge story (as if Bobby or Bobby's ancestor were\nsomehow responsible for Joe's death), as well as a weird sacrifice (as if\nJoe hungers for blood or company).\n\nJust a few thoughts.\n\n=mantis="
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