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  "thread": {
    "id": 240,
    "subject": "Cim & seven",
    "messages": 1,
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    "first": "1997-10-30T21:20:00+00:00",
    "last": "1997-10-30T21:20:00+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0005-0365@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "m.driussi",
        "address": "m.driussi at genie.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-10-30T21:20:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: Cim & seven",
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          "text": "Reply:  Item #1989349 from URTH at LISTS.BEST.COM@INET00#\n\nI was and remain undecided whether Cim means \"snow\" or \"pollen\" or\n\"flower/seeds\" (like a dandelion's paragliders).  They would seem to\nbelong to different seasons, fwiw.\n\nThen there is \"Cimmeria,\" which is using the \"cim\" of darkness (and\npronounced by us moderns as \"Simmeria,\" no?).  \"Darkness Glowing\"?\nSounds good!  \"Darkness blowing from tree to tree\"?  Not impossible!\n\nThere is also \"Cimmerii\" (Latin pronunciation: Kimmerii) a Thracian\npeople living on the Dnieper.  For the literalists.\n\nWhile cim might be a special type of snow (as in, \"Esquimoux have a\nlarge number of terms for snow\"), it cannot be general snow since\nthen the father's planned name for child would have been \"Seven Cim.\"\n\nThat bit about \"Seven Snows\" has always acted like a hint of some\nsort.  But what?  I'm repeatedly tempted to come up with the\nequivalant in Greek, Latin, Aramaic, or other language, just to see\nif there might be a linkage . . . brute force reverse engineering.\nToday I'm wondering if Gene Wolfe didn't get some tribe names from\nhis friend Algis (\"you may remember him as Jonas\") Budrys--mantic tip\nto check Baltic languages.\n\nOh hey, it happens to be a mangled contraction of \"Snow White and the\nSeven Dwarves\"--and =that's= why it has such a fairy tale ring to my\near.  (Odd that there is a dwarf in the TS story . . . )\n\n=mantis="
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