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  "thread": {
    "id": 244,
    "subject": "Saltimbanque vs. counterfeit",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1997-11-01T16:07:47+00:00",
    "last": "1997-11-03T21:15:20+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0005-0372@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Cristina López",
        "address": "lforum at arrakis.es"
      },
      "date": "1997-11-01T16:07:47+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Saltimbanque vs. counterfeit",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Nutria, Tony\n\nSaltimbanque comes from the Italian Saltimbanqui and it means a kind of\nsmooth-tongued travelling salesman who climbs (salta) on top of a bench\n(banqui) in the street and begins to describe the wonders of his stuff.\nObviously, most often these wonders are counterfeit so, in a sense, yes it\ncould be, but\n\na much more popular meaning of saltimbanqui (at least in Spanish, as far as\nI can tell) is \"itinerant acrobat\" and this one has nothing to do with\ncounterfeit.\n\nHowever, knowing the careful choice of words typical in Wolfe, I'd bet he\nwas aware of both meanings, so anything is possible. Anyway, my impression\nis that Saltimbanque Street is just a colourist name (Street of the\nStrolling Performers) for a street in a lively quarter."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0005-0381@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jim Jordan",
        "address": "jbjordan at gnt.net"
      },
      "date": "1997-11-03T21:15:20+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Saltimbanque vs. counterfeit",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0005-0372@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "Okay, I went back and looked it up, instead of relying on memory.\n\nItalian, Spanish, and English are not New Orleans, and this is definitely\nNew Orleans.\n\nIn French, saltimbanque means \"charlatan.\" Sorry for saying\n\"counterfeiter,\" though that's close. Given the hell associations, the 666,\nthe whorehouse, and the generally evil experiments of Mr. Million, I'd say\n\"Satan as charlatan\" was clearly in Wolfe's mind. Not that the story is an\nallegory, or something. But the last line of the original novella is a\nchiller if this line of clones is really an \"antichrist\"!\n\nNutria"
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