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  "thread": {
    "id": 2442,
    "subject": "PEACE: Geography & Names",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2000-11-06T02:03:08+00:00",
    "last": "2000-11-06T02:03:08+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0087@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Roy C. Lackey",
        "address": "rclackey at stic.net"
      },
      "date": "2000-11-06T02:03:08+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) PEACE: Geography & Names",
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          "text": "Hattiesburg, Mississippi (where Doris joined the carnival) is just about as\nfar east of the Mississippi River as Gladewater, Texas (where Doris died) is\nwest of it. Memphis, Tennessee is on the river just above the Mississippi\nstate line, which is where Mab Crawford went looking for her AWOL husband.\nLois came from St. Louis, Missouri, across the Mississippi River from\nIllinois, which is where most people want to put the Kanakessee River.\nGrandpa Elliot's house overlooked the Mississippi. He lived far enough South\nthat snow was uncommon, but not rare. It seems safe to place his house in\none of the four or five states bordering the Mississippi in about a 250 mile\nstretch below the southern tip of Illinois, probably Tennessee or northern\nMississippi.\n\nIn his letter Charlie mentions \"the Claibourne County Fair in Homer\". In\nnorthern Louisiana there is a Claiborne Parish (=county), and Homer is its\nParish seat of government. It was in Homer that Charlie started in on his\nmatchmaking with Doris and Tom, after returning from his visit with Weer.\n\nSo, what does this all mean? Beats the hell out of me, but Charlie Turner\nhad nine copies of LIFE ON THE MISSISSIPPI, and the river seems to quietly\nrun through and connect various places and people. The traveling carnival\nthat Charlie was with seems to have moved up and down the river, stopping at\nsites a few hundred miles to either side of it. Weer a few times waxes\nnostalgic about primitive America, and the Mississippi was and is a part of\nthat.\n\nJulius Smart, the summer after college when he was looking for a job, seems\nto have confined his search to the Midwest, for all that Weer apparently\nthinks he wound up in Florida. Smart doesn't say that; it could have just as\neasily been Texas, or almost anywhere along the Gulf coast. But the magnolia\ntrees along the streets put me more in mind of Louisiana or Mississippi. I\ndon't know if they eat grits in Florida, but they do in the rest of the Deep\nSouth.\n\nmantis mentioned:"
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          "text": "\"Doris\" means \"of the sea\" (like the princess in her tower?), but it might\nbe (if we stretch it really far) \"d'Or\" (of Gold)."
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          "text": "\"Arline\" is an oath; \"Candy\" . . ."
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          "text": "To that I would add these, fwiw, from an appendix of given names in Joseph\nT. Shipley's DICTIONARY OF WORD ORIGINS:\n***********\nDoris: Gr. Sea Maiden.\n\nArleen, Arlene, Arline: variants of _Eileen_.\n\nEileen: Irish form of _Helen_.\n\nHelen: Gr. Dawn-bright.\n\nAlden: Teut. Old town.\n\nDenis, Dennis, Denys: French forms of _Dion_.\n\nDion: Gr. short for _Dionysos_, god of revelry.\n\nHannah: Heb. Grace.\n\nOlive, Olivia: L. The tree (sign of peace).\n\nLois: Gr. Desired (or short for _Aloys_).\n\nCharles: Teut. Strong.\n\nAdelina, Adeline: Teut. Little noble one.\n\nArabella: L. Fair refuge.\n\nShirley: Teut. County meadow.\n\nJules, Julian, Julius: L. Light-bearded.\n\nStewart: Teut. One in charge.\n\n***********\n\nRoy"
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