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  "thread": {
    "id": 245,
    "subject": "Digest urth.v005.n041",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1997-11-01T14:17:58+00:00",
    "last": "1997-11-01T14:17:58+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0005-0373@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice Turner",
        "address": "al at interport.net"
      },
      "date": "1997-11-01T14:17:58+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: Digest urth.v005.n041",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Tony,"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Interesting! Can anybody confirm that Saltimbanque =3D counterfeit\nfor us?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "It's related, but a noun. It means mountebank or quack (cked OED)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "The strongest parallels I can see are with Australian aboriginal culture,\nand more specifically with its destruction at the hands of white\nsettlers. "
        },
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          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "Me too. Which is why when I read Paul Park's -Celestis- it seemed to me to\nbe written almost as an homage to Fifth Head  (the collection, not just the\ntitle novella).\n\nRostrum, "
        },
        {
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "And since this message has no Wolfe content anyway, I'll continue with\nthe\nobservation, after reading Cordwainer Smith's \"A Planet Named Shayol,\" \nthat where at one time people wrote gory descriptions of Hell with the\npurpose of putting a genuine fear of God into people, several modern\nscience fiction writers have written gory stories about Hell with the\n(seemingly intended) effect of making the reader say, \"surely this cannot\nbe.\" "
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          "text": "Who else? I'm curious.\n\nSarge,"
        },
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          "text": "I hate to be always the contrarian (lie: I love it)...but I think \"Cim\"\nis an electrical phenomenon, like St. Elmo's Fire or ball lightning.\nEither could fit the description of a \"soft star\" moving from tree to\ntree. In addition there is Cim's weapon: perhaps the totemic naming\nconveys an analogous power on the named one, and thus Cim's weapon is\nelectrical."
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          "text": "That's definitely an interesting take, though I still think that it we\ncould ever find what language Wolfe was using, it might refer to something\non the snowy side. That's a question (the language, not Cim specifically)\nany of you who plan to go to a convention to see him, etc., might ask. A\none-word answer would suffice, and so would \"I made it up.\"\n\n-alga-"
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