Digest urth.v005.n041 The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 01 Nov 1997 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/245 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Alice Turner — 01 Nov 1997, 14:17 Tony, > Interesting! Can anybody confirm that Saltimbanque =3D counterfeit > for us? It's related, but a noun. It means mountebank or quack (cked OED) > The strongest parallels I can see are with Australian aboriginal culture, > and more specifically with its destruction at the hands of white > settlers. Me too. Which is why when I read Paul Park's -Celestis- it seemed to me to be written almost as an homage to Fifth Head (the collection, not just the title novella). Rostrum, > And since this message has no Wolfe content anyway, I'll continue with > the > observation, after reading Cordwainer Smith's "A Planet Named Shayol," > that where at one time people wrote gory descriptions of Hell with the > purpose of putting a genuine fear of God into people, several modern > science fiction writers have written gory stories about Hell with the > (seemingly intended) effect of making the reader say, "surely this cannot > be." Who else? I'm curious. Sarge, > I hate to be always the contrarian (lie: I love it)...but I think "Cim" > is an electrical phenomenon, like St. Elmo's Fire or ball lightning. > Either could fit the description of a "soft star" moving from tree to > tree. In addition there is Cim's weapon: perhaps the totemic naming > conveys an analogous power on the named one, and thus Cim's weapon is > electrical. That's definitely an interesting take, though I still think that it we could ever find what language Wolfe was using, it might refer to something on the snowy side. That's a question (the language, not Cim specifically) any of you who plan to go to a convention to see him, etc., might ask. A one-word answer would suffice, and so would "I made it up." -alga- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------