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  "thread": {
    "id": 2478,
    "subject": "5HC details, another bit about PEACE and JURGEN",
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    "first": "2000-11-29T13:40:27+00:00",
    "last": "2000-11-29T13:40:27+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0139@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi",
        "address": "mantis at sirius.com"
      },
      "date": "2000-11-29T13:40:27+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) 5HC details, another bit about PEACE and JURGEN",
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          "text": "First, PEACE and JURGEN.  Maybe another point of interest is that Jurgen\nhimself is a very accomplished liar, and he does it by quoting or alluding\nto texts by ancient authors--all a fabrication.  So he is a literary sort\nof liar, which should remind us of both Lou Gold (his fake books) and A.D.\nWeer (his fake fairy tales).  Jurgen is wildly successful with this\ntechnique, since nobody he meets wants to admit that they don't know some\nfamous author or work.  Nine times out of ten, it seems, he gets away with\nit--and that tenth time is pretty neat, too.\n\n(Dan'l: right, my copy of JURGEN has the chapbook incorporated into it as a\nchapter.  The guy pressing the charges of obscenity is a dung beetle.  I\nfirst thought it was uncannily vatic in seeing the future of the book, but\na bit of research in THE ENCYCLOPEDIA OF FANTASY alerted me to the\nchapbook--God bless the little devils; chapbooks, I mean--which actually\nheightens the fun of it; JURGEN, I mean.)\n\nTHE FIFTH HEAD OF CERBERUS\n\nOkay, my head is splitting open again.  Help me gather up all the seeds\nbefore something disgusting happens.\n\n1) Re the artificial-seeming age/decay of the buildings on Ste. Croix.\n(Have we already talked about how) This is another strong pointer towards\nVeil's theory being true--in that abos can't construct buildings; hence the\nbuildings were built by humans, and then the humans were quietly, slowly\nexterminated and replaced. (?)\n\n2) Length of Annese year.  Is this clutching at straws yet?  JVM says VRT\nlooks/is 16 (Terran) years old.  If \"A Story\" is autobiographical, then as\nSandwalker is 13 (Annese) years old around the time when VRT is 16 (T)\nyears old, then the Annese year is 1.23 Terran years . . . which equals\n10788.922 hours . . . divided by 402 Annese days . . . gives an Annese day\nof 26.838114 hours . . .\n\nWhich is quite close to my previous guestimate of 30 hours per Annese day.\n(Actually JVM says VRT is 15 or 16, but using 15 gives an Annese day of 25\nhours, which is simply too short to consider!)\n\n3) My previous map is way, way off.  Apologies to all the few!  The Ocean\nseems to lie to the East, for starters: coastal Roncenvaux is 500 km SE of\nFrenchman's Landing, connected by train. The river Tempus thus flows toward\nFrenchman's Landing from the Northwest, but there also must be a big loop\nof it that flows NW for about a hundred miles or so (Sandwalker walks\n\"South\" for five days, but one day bodysurfing the river and he passes by\nhis homeland).\n\n=mantis="
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