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  "thread": {
    "id": 2492,
    "subject": "Digest urth.v030.n033",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2000-12-07T17:10:55+00:00",
    "last": "2000-12-08T00:12:25+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0164@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David Lebling",
        "address": "dlebling at ucentric.com"
      },
      "date": "2000-12-07T17:10:55+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: Digest urth.v030.n033",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "From: Michael Straight <straight at email.unc.edu>\nI remember one reviewer writting something like \"Gene Wolfe stands at the\nbridge as the critics come by one by one to try to figure out Castleview,\nand all are knocked into the moat.\"  (The reviewer's sentence was much\nbetter than that.)"
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          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "Gene Wolfe: He who would pass over the Bridge of Death, answer me these\nquestions three!\nReviewer: I will answer!\n\nGW: Who was Severian's grandmother?\nR: Dorcas!\n\nGW: Who was Apu Punchau?\nR: Severian!\n\nGW: What was going on at the end of _Castleview_?\nR: Um, uh, geez, no idea...\n\n**BOING!**\n\nWith all due apologies to Monty Python and GW.\n\n    Dave Lebling\n    (aka vizcacha)"
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0166@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David Duffy",
        "address": "davidd at qimr.edu.au"
      },
      "date": "2000-12-08T00:12:25+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: Digest urth.v030.n033",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0030-0164@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "On Thu, 7 Dec 2000 urth-errors at lists1.ba.best.com wrote:\n\nFrom: \"Dan'l Danehy-Oakes\" <ddanehy at siebel.com>\nAdam Stephanides wrote:"
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          "text": "Which, to return to an earlier point, is not something a \"very\nconservative writer\" would be likely to do; in fact, it's exactly the\nsort of thing the modernist authors of the early twentieth century were\npreoccupied by.  Nor is it generally the sort of thing people mean when\nthey talk about \"putting the story first.\""
        },
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          "text": "You seem to be pointing at a kind of \"experimental\" that was very\nexperimental indeed in the 1920s, and that most of the pomos would\nsniff at as mere \"modernism.\" And it is indeed putting the story\nThe paragraph in full:\n\n\tOne moment, please. Let me stand and walk to the window;\n\tlet me put this broken elm branch -- shaped as though it\n\twere meant to be the antler of a wooden deer, such a deer\n\tas might be found, possibly, under one of the largest\n\toutdoor Christmas trees -- upon the fire. Ladies, this\n\twas not what I wanted. Ladies, I wish to know only if in\n\tmy condition I should exercise or remain still; because\n\tif the answer is that I must exercise I will go looking\n\tfor my scout knife."
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          "text": "I think _Peace_ is definitely _modern_ in that sense.  The logic, such as in\nthe example above, is dream logic, and the modernists were all influenced by\npsychoanalysis.  \"Who knows what dreams may come\" is relevant to the common\nmodel of confused ghosts working through all that difficult material before\nthey \"wake up\".\n\nDavid Duffy."
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