# Metafictional Suns *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 09 Dec 2000* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Paul C Duggan *09 Dec 2000, 12:14* I also think it is unlikely that wolfe would put himself in the Short Sun series as the outsider or some such. BUT: Wolfe is "in" the New Sun, as the "translator" of the manuscript that severain sent back through the corridors of time. Is there, or will there be any hint as to how the Long and Short sun books got into Wolfe's hands to publish for us? There is also the illumiating reversion to Urth-diction that we find in IGJ. Paul ---